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[welcometopiyush]

what was your last cycle? above

Hi Ron
Thanks for Replying

My last stack was somthing like this
weak 1-4
testosterone 250 mg,equipose 150mg,dianabol 40mg
week 5- 6
testosterone 500 mg,equipose 200mg,dianabol 40mg
week 7-8
testosterone 250 mg,equipose 150mg,dianabol 40mg

week 9-12
PCT

I took 15 days testosterone undeconate at 40 mg/day in november also 1- Nov to 15 Nov

Now this time i want to gain size as well as clear my physique at the same time but want to be safe also

Please advise.

I shall be thankful to you.

[ricky23]

hi ronnie, quick question what do you think of hany rambods fst-7 system for lagging bodyparts? to me it just sounds like a quick fix and can lead to overtraining in the long term, what do you think?

[ricky23]

hi ronnie, quick question what do you think of hany rambods fst-7 system for lagging bodyparts? to me it just sounds like a quick fix and can lead to overtraining in the long term, what do you think?

sorry ron just found that you answered a similar question on page 6!
thanks

[Ronnie Rowland]

[QUOTE=ricky23;5543711]hi ronnie, quick question what do you think of hany rambods fst-7 system for lagging bodyparts? to me it just sounds like a quick fix and can lead to overtraining in the long term, what do you think? Honestly, there is no way to bring up a lagging body part by training it with more sets. What brings up lagging body parts is [U]consistency, prioritization and hard work over the long haul given you are not under-training Obtaining an additional pump in the gym (like you can get from fst-7) does not equal more muscle mass. Straight sets always builds the most muscle and moving fast between sets at the end like fst-7 teaches does not allow for maximum weights to be used-hence a lack of deep type-2 fiber stimulation and increasing your chance for injury IMO. It's too many sets and over-training for the masses. You will never change your genetics by doing too many sets or eating too much protein. Train smart and you will grow according to your genetics. Nothing can change that![/[/U]QUOTE]above

[Ronnie Rowland]

hi ron
thanks for replying

my last stack was somthing like this
weak 1-4
testosterone 250 mg,equipose 150mg,dianabol 40mg
week 5- 6
testosterone 500 mg,equipose 200mg,dianabol 40mg
week 7-8
testosterone 250 mg,equipose 150mg,dianabol 40mg

week 9-12
pct

i took 15 days testosterone undeconate at 40 mg/day in november also 1- nov to 15 nov

now this time i want to gain size as well as clear my physique at the same time but want to be safe also

please advise. the safest cycle is a test only cycle imo. I would run 750 mgs per week for first reload and 1 gram per week duiring second deload then pct.

i shall be thankful to you.

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[welcometopiyush]

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Hi Ronnie

i wat to cut also at the same time. do i need to take something for cutting also at the same time.

[welcometopiyush]

Hi Ronnie

i wat to cut also at the same time. do i need to take something for cutting also at the same time.

actually i am planing to run clen and tren with test.

[bernimx]

Hey M. Rowland,

I first read that thread in 2008 but just fell back on it again and found it EXTREMELY informative and logic, thank you very much for this.

I'm a bit confused, please tell me if I got this right.

At first you were suggesting to reload for 8-12 week, then deload for two weeks, but it seems that now you narrowed it down really to an 8 week reload followed by a 2 week deload, and a two week prime after that if you really were overtrained. Is this about right?

Also, you probably mentionned it, but could I alternate between say a blast where I eat a little bit over maintenance, say 300 a day on average to really minimise fat gain and have more of a recomp effect, followed by a second blast aiming at lowering bf%, where i'd follow a carb-cycling approach just like the one you mentionned. How do you play around with the dosage for such planning? Would you still increase the dosage? Since i'm giving vague details, i'm just looking for a vague answer; i'm not paying you anyway eh.

Thank you.

[Ronnie Rowland]

hey m. Rowland,

i first read that thread in 2008 but just fell back on it again and found it extremely informative and logic, thank you very much for this.

I'm a bit confused, please tell me if i got this right.

At first you were suggesting to reload for 8-12 week, then deload for two weeks, but it seems that now you narrowed it down really to an 8 week reload followed by a 2 week deload, and a two week prime after that if you really were overtrained. Is this about right? no prime is needed after a 2 week deload. Only after a show would you normally need to take it easy for more than 2 weeks. also, you probably mentionned it, but could i alternate between say a blast where i eat a little bit over maintenance, say 300 a day on average to really minimise fat gain and have more of a recomp effect, followed by a second blast aiming at lowering bf%, where i'd follow a carb-cycling approach just like the one you mentionned. absolutely! how do you play around with the dosage for such planning? Would you still increase the dosage? Since i'm giving vague details, i'm just looking for a vague answer; i'm not paying you anyway eh.you still increase dosages during second reload. On a long drawn out cutting phase you do not deload for 2 weeks but some of my clients need a 1 week deload with training only at times if joint pain or fatigue gets out of hand.thank you.

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[Ronnie Rowland]

[QUOTE=welcometopiyush;5545603]actually i am planing to run clen and tren with test. that will work very good![/QUOTE]above

[welcometopiyush]

[QUOTE=Ronnie Rowland;5546772]

actually i am planing to run clen and tren with test. that will work very good![/QUOTE]above

Hi Ronnie

I have heard that u can not run clen and tren togather as there will be high blood pressure associated with these two steroids
and also heard that we can not do cardio with tren

Please suggest what are safe dosaages of clen,tren and test.

[welcometopiyush]

[QUOTE=welcometopiyush;5546776]

Hi Ronnie

I have heard that u can not run clen and tren togather as there will be high blood pressure associated with these two steroids
and also heard that we can not do cardio with tren

Please suggest what are safe dosaages of clen,tren and test.

and also i will be using test enanthate with trenbol acetate and clen alongwith some ECA. will this be fine for cutting

[welcometopiyush]

and do suggest a good PCT Cycle for above stack

[Ronnie Rowland]

[QUOTE=welcometopiyush;5546776]

Hi Ronnie

I have heard that u can not run clen and tren togather as there will be high blood pressure associated with these two steroids
and also heard that we can not do cardio with tren Not true, in fact my blood pressure always decreased due to losing body fat and cardio. When you add clen with tren it opens up your bronchial tubes allowing you to breath pretty much normal once again.
Please suggest what are safe dosaages of clen,tren and test. For what you are trying to achieve I would go with around 750 mgs of test, 400 mgs of tren and no more than 80 mcgs of clen.

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[bernimx]

Ronnie,

I got a question regarding long-estered drugs and your reload/deload protocol.

Let's assume one runs the following plan (speculation):

RELOAD
1-8 Test-e @ 500mg/week
1-8 Tren-e @ 300mg/week

DELOAD
9-10 Test-e @ 250mg/week
9-10 Tren-e @ 150mg/week

RELOAD
11-18 Test-e @ 500mg/week
11-18 Tren-e @ 300mg/week

DELOAD
...

Because of the long ester, won't the user attain his lowest dosage during week 11-12 or so? Now if the user was using test-prop and tren-ace, I could see that plan make total sense.. But as it is laid out, which is the way you seem to be recommending, won't the drugs level slowly decline by week 9-10, to attain their lowest point at week 11-12, to then build up again from there? Please enlighten me.

[bernimx]

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Thanks a lot Ronnie.

Another question, although you might have answered it already...

Is there a point where it's wiser to come off after several reload/deload to clear the receptors so that you surpass where you were once you're back on, especially when the dosage gets very high for example?

[UKDeviant]

Hi Ronnie, love this thread and the hardwork you put into it.
I have seen some serious results since following your protocol rather than the yo yo'ing from 12 weeks and time off cycles but I need some advise on my next reload.
Current reload is 1g Test E 200mg Deca a week and not sure what to do for my next reload. I have not suffered any real sides just the odd spot on my shoulders but not sure moving up to 1.25g a week is the right thing to do so i was thinking of adding in Tren E but never used this compound before. Would you advise i keep the Test at 1g a week and add in some tren (if so what would be a good starting dose something around 400mg a week?) or should i drop the Test a little if adding in Tren e for the first time or would you recommend a completely different stack to keep the gains coming?

Regards.