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    My first cycle after years of training natural

    Quote Originally Posted by Ronnie Rowland View Post
    I'm sure Phil's training system is good but it's mostly his genetics. He's built like a VIKING!
    Hi Ronnie.

    First of all, thanks for everything , you are the bible of this.

    So, I m very new with this world of steroids, for many years I wanted to try but in spain is not that easy, I m leaving in LA now, way easy to get anything you need.

    8weeks cycle
    So, I started two weeks ago with 4-ad ( 4-androstene-3b-ol,17-one ), and 1-andro ( same but 1-andros.....) from Advance Muscle Science.

    I m doing 2ml UTT daily of each 1ml AM one PM
    I will be adding Decabol next week
    I will be ending with Arom-X after the 8weeks for 2 weeks more.

    You think is good combination ?

    So far I gain almost 1' in my biceps and I m in 164lb, I started in 155lb, but I feel some belly increase as well, my back got huge, but is for my old swimming training, I guess memory muscle.

    I m training 6 days a week and my streght is extremly more, some guys at gym start to look at me wear, provable they figure it out, after 30min training all my body is pump, my shoulder are big and my back as well, as a reference I never did legs to much, stupid of me, but I m in 300lb moving on calf. biceps 55lb 5-6 reps,4 sets. for arm or 100 on Z bar

    Stack xtra:
    I still taking Creatine as before cycle, C4 from Cellucor
    glutamin
    Aminos
    whey Protein,Casein at night, about 240g
    6 meals a day. 3 on shakes.

    Questions :

    I should rest one day a week or two? or none, I feel I can workout every day.
    I should add something else to the stack ?
    Can I keep the creatine ? I read somewhere they said that not. !!
    I read to add a lot of protector hepatic or gymo or anything like that... what you recommend for ? I m feeling good so far but some times a little annoying pain over of the testicles inside, maybe is myself "paranoiac"


    Thank you anyway to everybody for you post, is fantastic to follow the real world and what is good or bad for us.

    Thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by kitecalifornia View Post
    hi ronnie.

    First of all, thanks for everything , you are the bible of this.

    So, i m very new with this world of steroids, for many years i wanted to try but in spain is not that easy, i m leaving in la now, way easy to get anything you need.

    8weeks cycle
    so, i started two weeks ago with 4-ad ( 4-androstene-3b-ol,17-one ), and 1-andro ( same but 1-andros.....) from advance muscle science.

    I m doing 2ml utt daily of each 1ml am one pm
    i will be adding decabol next week
    i will be ending with arom-x after the 8weeks for 2 weeks more.

    You think is good combination ?honeslty, i do not kep up to date with pro-hormones anymore so i do not feel qualified to answer this question.so far i gain almost 1' in my biceps and i m in 164lb, i started in 155lb, but i feel some belly increase as well, my back got huge, but is for my old swimming training, i guess memory muscle. no, it's your genetics!i m training 6 days a week and my streght is extremly more, some guys at gym start to look at me wear, provable they figure it out, after 30min training all my body is pump, my shoulder are big and my back as well, as a reference i never did legs to much, stupid of me, but i m in 300lb moving on calf. Biceps 55lb 5-6 reps,4 sets. For arm or 100 on z bar

    stack xtra:
    I still taking creatine as before cycle, c4 from cellucor
    glutamin
    aminos
    whey protein,casein at night, about 240g
    6 meals a day. 3 on shakes.

    Questions :

    I should rest one day a week or two? Or none, i feel i can workout every day. i like 4 days per week but 5 max imo.
    i should add something else to the stack ?
    Can i keep the creatine ? I read somewhere they said that not. !! you can
    i read to add a lot of protector hepatic or gymo or anything like that... What you recommend for ? I m feeling good so far but some times a little annoying pain over of the testicles inside, maybe is myself "paranoiac"[b] i wouldnt take anything else over-the-counter except liquid egg whites for protein, baby aspirin and some fish oil. fish oil works in conjuction with anti-es so everyone should take them. It also helps prevent dna damage-thus preventing certain forms of cancer. A baby aspirin a day is also a good ideal.[/b]
    thank you anyway to everybody for you post, is fantastic to follow the real world and what is good or bad for us.

    Thanks
    above

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