Agreed.
I was 27 when I used a supplement for the first time in my life. I remember eating 4 meals a days and working out 5 times a week at the gym when I was only 19 years old, I was growing like weed with no access to any supplement whatsoever. Not to mention I had a very little knowlegde of weightraining at that age, half my workout was BS and I used the machines only.
There are a few youngsters at the local gym where I have been working out since 2007, and they are exactly in that loophole you were trying to describe in your post: anxious without supplements. It really pisses me off and I have tried to talk some sense to them but they apparently are under the spell of hot-shot products like SuperPump and NOX3 and won't workout without them, lol.
At the moment, I am using Creatine, Whey and Casein. I think I am going to permanently limit my supplementation to those 3 that I benefit from the most and save my money that way. I have recently made a deal with a butcher and he has been giving me the most amazing lean beef cuts, introducing 2 extra lean red meat meals to my diet as opposed to buying bunch of supplements has made a huge positive difference in my body: I am burning fat and building lean muscle beyond my expectations, not to mention I am not even cycling at the moment.
19 now dec if tht makes me any more mature :P and i use quite alot of stims because im really insensitive 2 them. when i used no shotgun and no xplode i didnt get a hit off them at all. i work out early in the morning so i just need something 2 get me going. ive never heard of any1 i know having anxiety problems from stims? i cycle them 2 stop becoming more insensitive 2 them. never had a problem working out without pre-workout sups, they arent gonna help me gain any muscle i know, but if it helps me get a better workout then im gonna utilise that. u ever workout in raw gym in portobello btw? thinking bout joining it. my gyms dumbells only go up 2 30kg...need somewhere new i think!
im joining there at the end of this month, only good hardcore gym on the southside.Originally Posted by Gucks;560***9
not trying to bash you on the stims, but be careful with them, dont use them constantly and i know alot of ppl who have fried their nerves on them, i've been experimenting with supps for your whole life span lol. rem what goes up, must come down! you can get a good workout without them via a decent and timed diet, only thing i use em for is cardio for focus cos i fookin hate cardio lol. what area you from in dub?
lol, same. cardio is the bane of my life, u know they have tyre flipping in raw? so much btr then f**cking treadmill! i get student discount and im in the institute, just around the corner from raw, so i was seriously considering joining. im in castleknock, u? ill be moving out near ucd next yr so ill be in raw next yr hopefully then!
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