Need a cutting prohormone

[M302_Imola]

M-drol is a wet bulk, it will bloat you. Running H-drol at 100mg is completely unnecessary, 50-75 mg is the sweet spot for most. Hdrol would be a decent cutter, but the better choice would be epi, I've never ran it but I hear with proper diet you can lose fat AND gain dry muscle. Have some fish oil and def some cissus on hand because it will dry out your joints.

Thanks for the post...yeah I always take fish oil, glucosamine, and cissus. Especially when cutting!

Running Epistane while using tren would be like having one beer to augment the effects of an entire night of drinking Jack Daniels. Its useless and wont do anything.
I also have a theory on conversion of ph or ph precursors while on AAS - but im still researching it so i dont wanna put it out there. I may be off base so until i know im keeping it to myself.
TBH I agree with Dec11 and if i was going to add in an oral id add in a phamrceutical - not a ph or a ph precusor.
DHT based oral like say Var if u cant get winny. GR8 synergy with test/tren. I like winny and have had great results with test/tren/winny but Var is a good alternative.
JMO

Jimmy once you get your theory ironed out I would love to hear about it as I have always made nice gains running aas and prohormones at the same time. I will update you on how the hdrol treats me.

[jimmyinkedup]

Jimmy once you get your theory ironed out I would love to hear about it as I have always made nice gains running aas and prohormones at the same time. I will update you on how the hdrol treats me.

Thanks M302 ! That would actually be helpful as i respect you opinion and since hdrol requires an enzymatic conversion to be active it falls perfectly into what i am looking into - so please do. You have to remeber many coupounds people refer to as prohormones really arent prohormones. For example mdrol doesnt need to convert to anything. In all reality even though i hate to say it- its a steroid - not a prohormone. Hdrol however fits the bill perfectly for my research.
Have you run a similar test /tren cycle so you can compare with and without hdrol ?

[wantaesthetics]

for cuts imo you should be looking to extend the cycle to the maximum length so u can cut the most fat without losing muscle. Why cut on 3 weeks of mdrol and lose only ~6 lbs.

I cut once like this (btw this might be broscience but worked for me, adding compounds over the course of the cut helped due to the initial "kick" when the compounds took effect, it helped keep strength the same even on a huge 1k deficit).

Ok so week 1-2 EC stack + creatine 1k deficit
week 3 EC stack + creatine + CEL P-Stanz 1k deficit
week 4 EC stack + CEL P-Stanz 1k deficit (forgot the dose but pretty high)
week 5-8 CEL P-Stanz + Hdrol (hdrol was 75/75/75/75) 1.25k deficit
week 9-10 CEL Hdrol (100/100) 1k deficit
PCT was nolva+creatine (lol) 20/20/20/10/10 and I ate at maintenance during pct

helped me cut about 22lbs of fat and lost 0 strength literally and I gained 3 in pct even eating at maintenance which indicated water weight and a slightly depressed metabolism and after effects of depressed test. If u cut at -500 u might gain str. But i cut at -1k and -1.25k at one point.

Overall I went from reasonably chubby to flexed abs. Sick, sick cut. Im gonna run one similar to this in feb a few months after my test e cycle. It should help me get down to absolutely shredded status.

[M302_Imola]

Thanks M302 ! That would actually be helpful as i respect you opinion and since hdrol requires an enzymatic conversion to be active it falls perfectly into what i am looking into - so please do. You have to remeber many coupounds people refer to as prohormones really arent prohormones. For example mdrol doesnt need to convert to anything. In all reality even though i hate to say it- its a steroid - not a prohormone. Hdrol however fits the bill perfectly for my research.
Have you run a similar test /tren cycle so you can compare with and without hdrol ?

It's funny you mention mdrol as this is the only "prohormone" I have taken and always had great results on aas or not. Yeah I have ran a similar test/tren cycle so I should be able to compare. Will keep you updated!

[kjs1977]

what do you guys think of the prohormone emonster?