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    Hey Ron, you always hear guys saying you have to add some body fat while bulking in order to see good gains. Also, you look at some of the big boys in the off season and they look pretty fat, then when show time comes they're ripped!! I was down to about 7-8% BF after my last cut, but now I'm doing 1.5 grams of Test 700 mg Tren E 60 mg Var ed and am getting a little fat (I'm half way through week 3 and getting very big on my lifts, I went from 5 days to 3 days of cardio) but I don't look as good as I did immediately after the cut. Now what I don't want to do is panic and roll my diet back to the point of never really getting a decent bulk going like I hear of guys doing all the time. I guess my question is what % BF can a guy hope to maintain and still bulk well. Will the Var and Tren take care of this? I'm not panicking or anything and I know I can cut later if that's what it takes, but I live in a 365 day a year tourist beach community and everyday's a good day to be ripped!!
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    In regards to running aromasin during cycle whether you are gyno prone or not.

    Here is a copy and past from another post on this board. He had blood work done on and off the AI. his free test was 3x higher running 10mg eod.

    Would it not be good to do this since it's known aromasin lowers shbg?



    Yes sorry...here it is

    .......................Aromasin 10mg EOD...............No Aromasin

    Total Test (8-35)............40................................> 50
    Estrogen (<.18).............0.32.......................... . .. 0.69
    SHBG (8-60)..................5............................ ........17
    Free Test (2.3-9.9)........81.2...............................29. 8

    The last BW was taken 5 days after ceasing Aromasin.
    After the BW, I immediately got back on.
    Got tired, lost libido, lost energy and lift, and looked a little bloated.
    I have to take this week off from workout.
    Finally starting to feel better today, and wood is back.
    I guess this experiment cost me some progress..lol, but I really wanted to find out what impact the Aromasin had.
    IMO, why run without. Look what the small dose did to my Free Test......3 times higher!!!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by slimshady01 View Post
    in regards to running aromasin during cycle whether you are gyno prone or not.

    Here is a copy and past from another post on this board. He had blood work done on and off the ai. His free test was 3x higher running 10mg eod.

    Would it not be good to do this since it's known aromasin lowers shbg? i would choose proviron at 50 mgs per day over aromasin. Proviron like aromasin has bascially no estrogen rebound when coming off and proviron wont affect joint health and sex drive in a negative way like aromasin does and proviron also lowers shbg levels!yes sorry...here it is

    .......................aromasin 10mg eod...............no aromasin

    total test (8-35)............40................................> 50
    estrogen (<.18).............0.32.......................... . .. 0.69
    shbg (8-60)..................5............................ ........17
    free test (2.3-9.9)........81.2...............................29. 8

    the last bw was taken 5 days after ceasing aromasin.
    After the bw, i immediately got back on.
    Got tired, lost libido, lost energy and lift, and looked a little bloated.
    I have to take this week off from workout.
    Finally starting to feel better today, and wood is back.
    I guess this experiment cost me some progress..lol, but i really wanted to find out what impact the aromasin had.
    Imo, why run without. Look what the small dose did to my free test......3 times higher!!!!!!
    above

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Titan99 View Post
    Hey Ron, you always hear guys saying you have to add some body fat while bulking in order to see good gains. Also, you look at some of the big boys in the off season and they look pretty fat, then when show time comes they're ripped!! I was down to about 7-8% BF after my last cut, but now I'm doing 1.5 grams of Test 700 mg Tren E 60 mg Var ed and am getting a little fat (I'm half way through week 3 and getting very big on my lifts, I went from 5 days to 3 days of cardio) but I don't look as good as I did immediately after the cut. Now what I don't want to do is panic and roll my diet back to the point of never really getting a decent bulk going like I hear of guys doing all the time. I guess my question is what % BF can a guy hope to maintain and still bulk well. Will the Var and Tren take care of this? I'm not panicking or anything and I know I can cut later if that's what it takes, but I live in a 365 day a year tourist beach community and everyday's a good day to be ripped!! Var and tren help with getting cut (GH even more) but diet is most important. Stay around 12% body fat while bulking and you'll gain muscle.
    above

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