What should I add to my slingshot cycle to help cut addditional fat? Mast? Var? Tren?

[MercuryEvo]

26, first cycle, 5'10" 181 lbs, around 15% BF.

I'm on week 3 right now. I want something that will help cut fat even more. I'm considering anavar, Tren or Mast. I'm not sure what to stack in without drastically affecting my PCT plans. Also not sure what I can safely add during week 4 or 5 if anything? I also dropped Clomid out as I dont think I'll need it but I think I'm going to get it anyway just in case.

Reload: (12 hard sets per body part each week, 300g protein, 200g carbs, 80g fat)
Week 1 750mg Test E
week 2 750mg Test E
week 3 750mg Test E
week 4 750mg Test E, HCG 500iu, Aromasin 12.5mg EOD
week 5 750mg Test E, HCG 500iu, Aromasin 12.5mg EOD
week 6 750mg Test E, HCG 500iu, Aromasin 12.5mg EOD
week 7 750mg Test E, HCG 500iu, Aromasin 12.5mg EOD
week 8 750mg Test E, HCG 500iu, Aromasin 12.5mg EOD

Deload: (6 sets per body part each week and change exercises, lower weights, higher reps. 150g protein, 100g carbs, <40g fat )
week 9 250mg Test E, HCG 500iu, Aromasin 12.5mg EOD
week 10 250mg Test E, HCG 500iu, Aromasin 12.5mg EOD

Reload: (12 hard sets per body part each week, 300g protein, 200g carbs, 80g fat)
week 11 1g Test E, HCG 500iu, Aromasin 12.5mg EOD
week 12 1g Test E, HCG OFF, Aromasin 12.5mg EOD
week 13 1g Test E, HCG OFF, Aromasin 12.5mg EOD
week 15 1g Test E, HCG 500iu, Aromasin 12.5mg EOD
week 16 1g Test E, HCG 500iu, Aromasin 12.5mg EOD
week 17 1g Test E, HCG 500iu, Aromasin 12.5mg EOD
week 18 1g Test E, HCG 500iu, Aromasin 12.5mg EOD

Deload: (6 sets per body part each week and change exercises, lower weights, higher reps. 150g protein, 100g carbs, <40g fat )
week 19 200mg Test E, HCG 500iu, Aromasin 12.5mg EOD
week 20 200mg Test E, HCG 500iu, Aromasin 12.5mg EOD

PCT: (continue reload / deload workouts and exercises as well as diet)
week 21 Aromasin 12.5mg EOD, HCG 500iu
week 22 Nolvadex, 40mg ED,
week 23 Nolvadex, 40mg ED,
week 24 Nolvadex, 20mg ED,
week 25 Nolvadex, 20mg ED,


Thx in advance

[MercuryEvo]

bump up

[D7M]

I understand the ideas behind STS, but I'm not sure you're ready for that, or to go up to a gram a week on your first cycle.

I'd stick with a simple test cycle for 10-12 weeks to get your feet wet, and do take a trip to the diet section.

[Windex]

Agreed, there is no need to add a second compound mate. You want to know how your body reacts to just Test first and then add another compound if need be on future cycles. Test and an optimal diet will take you a long way. Always good to get your diet checked as well and do bloodwork ^_<. Goodluck.

[MercuryEvo]

OK, I might throw some Clen in the mix

[_CrossroadS_]

Some would argue you shouldn't even take drugs yet at your height/weight, but since you already started...Stick to one compound. Get your diet right. At 180lbs, the difference between 15% and 10% BF is around 10 lbs. If you lost that today, would you be happy being 5'10" 170? If so, why take drugs? If not, and your goal is to build mass, and lose body fat, you should have no trouble, drugs or not, losing 10 lbs of fat in 8 months (the total length of your cycle) with the right diet and cardio.

Don't use the drugs as a crutch, that will end up being a waste of money, and a skewed risk/reward... Use them as a compliment to your knowledge and experience of your body...

[slimshady01]

If you insist on slingshot start at 300mg for the first 8 weeks then for the last 8 weeks go 600. Going 1g on a first cycle would be nuts.

[songdog]

bump

[gymfu]

Definatly no need for a gram on the first cycle.

[The Titan99]

Cutting at 180 lbs on Test? On a gram of Test? This is silly, uninformed and irresponsible. Steroids are for growing bigger, dude, not weight loss. Got to get that diet tuned up!!! The macros look good but aren't the calories a little high for your weight (2720). Recheck your BMR and TDEE using lean muscle mass only. Also, hit that AM cardio for 30 minutes 5 times a week, moderate intensity. That'll do more than Var or any of that other stuff your proposing.

[_CrossroadS_]

Holy sh*t I didn't even read the dosages you were planning. 3-500mg a week test with proper diet/training, and you should be able to put on 10-15lbs with no sweat. Drop your dosage to 500mg max right now. It'll be as if you "frontloaded". Save the extra juice, and watch yourself grow. Do you mind telling us who/what influenced the decision to put so much test in your first cycle? Also the length. I'd probably stick to 10-12 weeks, maybe 15 if you are continuing to see growth and have no major sides/issues. Who/what influenced you to go 20 weeks?

Do you have pre-cycle pictures? I find that guys who post stats and pics, and are honest up front, are going to get alot better advice.

[The Titan99]

Holy sh*t I didn't even read the dosages you were planning. 3-500mg a week test with proper diet/training, and you should be able to put on 10-15lbs with no sweat. Drop your dosage to 500mg max right now. It'll be as if you "frontloaded". Save the extra juice, and watch yourself grow. Do you mind telling us who/what influenced the decision to put so much test in your first cycle? Also the length. I'd probably stick to 10-12 weeks, maybe 15 if you are continuing to see growth and have no major sides/issues. Who/what influenced you to go 20 weeks?

Do you have pre-cycle pictures? I find that guys who post stats and pics, and are honest up front, are going to get alot better advice.

It's not a 20 week cycle , it's two 8 week cycles with a 2 week break/deload in the middle. It's the training method I use and he got it from Ronnie Rowland who has the sticky thread at the top of the page titled "You'll want to read this"