Quote Originally Posted by D7M View Post
Test first.

If you didn't use an oral in your first cycle, you can't start adding an oral in on your second. Oral of choice will be dependent on your goals.

Deca is a good next step, less harsh than tren, and gives the user a good introduction to 19nors.

EDIT: Here's his stats: http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...!-!&highlight=
And i thought people were kidding about asking for my stats.... LoL

My stats are currently 255lbs at the end of my PCT

I'm guessing most of my weight drop has been water since my lifts are the same as when i was on cycle if not up a bit on a few exercises. I do however have alot more definition now then before.



now back on track..


So what your saying is i can never do orals if i didn't do them in my very first cycle? If this IS what you are saying where does that logic come from? I've never heard that before



I've personally been weighing in my head to either front load an 8 week cycle (test E) relative to the slingshot system that ronnie swears by or don't front load and ad an oral.


But ultimately the point of this thread was to help inform my friends who want more mass or more "cut" what a likely compund to try would be rather then turn a deaf ear to a 5'8" 150lb guy wanting to do;

Deca 200mg/wk 1-12
test e 750mg/wk 1-14
tren e 200mg/wk 8-12
Dbol 40mg/day wk 1-4


Seems a bit much for 2nd cycle.. Don't you think