Million dollar question about tren no one seems to know the answer to

[kml999]

cortisol value?

[DRAMBRO]

Cortisol was 19. 8 range was 16 to 22

[Lemonada8]

you can get ED with alpha blockers in general. It does relax and let blood in but it doesnt keep it in as good. granted, its a rare side but still...

[DRAMBRO]

im hopin my issues are just a combination of high estrogen, shbg with LOW DHT

im hoping a test ethanate cycle for 5 weeks with aramasin then proper pct will get me back to normal

[Pac Man]

couldn't hurt.
I had a similar issue once, after about 9 months I said **** it and jumped back on cycle. Throughout the cycle I was like a mad man, poking holes in walls and shit. After cycle everything went back to normal. I ran HCG through that cycle as well as Adex and nolva/clomid pct

[BG]

These values will not prevent a boner. And anybody on a cycle has much higher Estro levels than yours, and have boners.
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But dont you think this is because their test levels are much higher??? While on cycle yes your estrogen is higher but so is your test levels..mucher. But now his test levels are back down but etrogen has remained high.

[Flier]

But dont you think this is because their test levels are much higher??? While on cycle yes your estrogen is higher but so is your test levels..mucher. But now his test levels are back down but etrogen has remained high.

This has been studied a lot, but I have not found any conclusive studies that show that testosterone has a role in the erection. An erection happens simply by opening and closing of blood vessels/valves.
The erection starts in the brain, and the subconscious makes up 90%+ of it.
In order to desire an erection, one must have libido, and here is where the hormones play a role. Testosterone will increase the libido, hence make the man hornier, and have a better lasting erection.
A lot of the raging hard ons on cycle, is simply because the user is "jacked" in all senses of the word. He will also talk more, lift more, enjoy activities more, and just simply BE more.
The testosterone is not traveling down to the penis and chemically making it hard.
Drambo according to his multiple threads on he subject is definitely stressing over this. Stress releases adrenaline, adrenaline will kill/soften the erection. This is for sure at least part of the problem.

[DRAMBRO]

I think my issues are def a result...HIGh estrogen...HIGH shbg....


low DHT....low free test

[MR10X]

Take some Masteron and see what happens,i use masteron prop and can tell the diffence when i take it...

[BG]

The testosterone is not traveling down to the penis and chemically making it hard.
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Lmao, what are you talking about, Im talking about uneven hormones surpressing your HPTA.

[BG]

I think my issues are def a result...HIGh estrogen...HIGH shbg....


low DHT....low free test

Yes I agree , the high estrogen/shbg is causing surpression. Everytime I go on, once my etrogen starts to get high my libido drops.

[DRAMBRO]

Im always worried thouh when im using Aramasin that im using too much if i take it everyday but then worried its not enough eod...

[kml999]

start low at EOD with any AI and increase if needed if there is any sides.....BW mid cycle wont hurt telling you where your estro is at. if estro is fine then stay at the same AI dose

[DRAMBRO]

start low at EOD with any AI and increase if needed if there is any sides.....BW mid cycle wont hurt telling you where your estro is at. if estro is fine then stay at the same AI dose

My theory of doing a cycle to fix damage done by a past cycle seems crazy but i think it may work


although tren didnt cause my test levels to shutdown..it did other damage like loweing my DHT...raising my estradiol and Shbg that a cycle of test cyp may fix.....followed by proper pct

[Lemonada8]

^ since ur estro and shbg both went up i bet thats reflex from the low DHT. DHT is a potent regulator of estrogen.

u may not need the AI, espif u didnt need it in previous cycles cuz being on cycle lowers that anyways.

and cyp is too slow acting.. u dont want a long half life with what ur doing, u wanna hit them hard and fast.

[DRAMBRO]

^ since ur estro and shbg both went up i bet thats reflex from the low DHT. DHT is a potent regulator of estrogen.

u may not need the AI, espif u didnt need it in previous cycles cuz being on cycle lowers that anyways.

and cyp is too slow acting.. u dont want a long half life with what ur doing, u wanna hit them hard and fast.

sorry...i meant test prop...for some reason i always type cyp cause thats usually my test of choice

[mperk]

what's your age bro?

[DRAMBRO]

33 yrs old

[kml999]

My theory of doing a cycle to fix damage done by a past cycle seems crazy but i think it may work


although tren didnt cause my test levels to shutdown..it did other damage like loweing my DHT...raising my estradiol and Shbg that a cycle of test cyp may fix.....followed by proper pct

i think it will work your numbers arent wacked and just need adjustments....let us know how it goes and make sure your future cycles have test as a base.

[DRAMBRO]

will do kml999

everyone on this board has been so helpful man...it really is helpin me get thru this tough time


for every asshole who says, take a viagra,,,ur broke....

there is 10 guys who offer me sound advice and a longterm solution..not just a quick fix

[DRAMBRO]

What will a cycle of test prop do to the current estradiol levels in ur system

will test increase them or decrease them

[GGot FFina?]

Im going through the same shyt brother. I too think its in your head after reading through your post. If its all good on paper, then it probably is. Your blood usually tells the whole story.

[DRAMBRO]

nah bro...def aint in my head

i get aroused..it just isnt hard

even with a cialis....somethin is holdin it back///low DHT will do this aas DHT makes ur boners hard

[DRAMBRO]

im just in shock that no one who has ever done a tren cycle has experienced what im experiencing

makes me feel like the most unlucky bastard in the world

[mperk]

im just in shock that no one who has ever done a tren cycle has experienced what im experiencing

makes me feel like the most unlucky bastard in the world

LOL - you are not the most unlucky bastard... just one of them! hahahaha i have had the same problem and it drives me fukkin crazy! but I'm throwing prescription meds in the mix (anti-depressants) so i know that fuks with both my dick and my brain....Don't despair - you'll figure it out - i just wish i had a good answer for you.

[DRAMBRO]

im actually startin to think my isssue may not be hormonal

maybe its physcial ,,,as soon as i told my urologiust i did jyuice in the past,,,he went the hormonal route


meanwhile infectionss like epididytis and prostatis will also give dudees ED

[gr8gear]

Any updates bro? Seems weird askin u about ur c*ck, but I'm starting a prop/tren/var cycle soon and use instilled fear in me

[Swifto]

I'd also like to knw updates.

[DRAMBRO]

I'd also like to knw updates.

All my blooodwork comes back in range


ALL OF IT!!


have a penile ultrasound with my urologist scheduled for July 15tth...

doc thinks its possible that i may have a small leak that is causing me not to geta full erection...

even though my BW comes back normal..i still think its hormonal though....i have no urge to **** and i never get random/morning wood


and trust me....preivious to that last cycle..id **** anything that moves n would always be lookin for *****

[DRAMBRO]

anyone with any sounds advice

[Lemonada8]

im still going with the short burst cycle of test p

if u arent horny, good libido, etc... then there is something else going on...

[t-gunz]

im still going with the short burst cycle of test p

if u arent horny, good libido, etc... then there is something else going on...

i just come off a short burst cycle. primed before hand. well worth it. only way i will cycle from now on

[Lemonada8]

uh oh, is that another Test P convert? :P