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    Hi Ronnie,

    Thank you for your quick reply. My body weight is 160 pounds and height is 5'8 and i am eating around 4000 calories a day and 300 gm of protein. I will definitely take your suggestion on this one and change my cycle to test/d-bol cycle. I did not have any side effects from test at all. But is there anything else should i take when running both of these together. I am not worried gyno though. Also please let me know if should i increase anymore calories or protein. My goal is 175 pounds. Nothing too crazy. Thank you in advance.

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    ron i came across rxmuscle radio from jan 24 this year with dr.durlan castro who is also a bodybuilder and they talked about sleep apnea, they mentioned a version of the c or b pap where u can just insert a piece into your nostrils which is wud be way easier to wear than a mask over ur face, palumbo says thats wot he wears and reccommends that all bodybuilders choose that version ,, is this just as gud as the mask??? also dr.durlan says u have to get a sleep test first before getn a machine, is this abs nessecary when you clearly know u have it and all the sympthons, can i jus buy it and use it? does tren have a major influence on sleep apnea, a bodybuilder in my gym said he had it bad until he stopped the tren and that stopped his apnea. when the doctor finally sends me to see the dermatologist about my acne and i ask for accutane, wil he take a blood test on me or check for steroids? and im pretty sure ive seen u say before that i can stay on steroids if using accutane, correct? thanks again for ur time ron!
    Last edited by lynxeffect1; 06-21-2011 at 04:19 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by alliswell View Post
    Hi Ronnie,

    Thank you for your quick reply. My body weight is 160 pounds and height is 5'8 and i am eating around 4000 calories a day and 300 gm of protein. I will definitely take your suggestion on this one and change my cycle to test/d-bol cycle. I did not have any side effects from test at all. But is there anything else should i take when running both of these together. I am not worried gyno though. Also please let me know if should i increase anymore calories or protein. My goal is 175 pounds. Nothing too crazy. Thank you in advance.
    Train only 4 days per week and do not increase protein but do increase both carbs and fats .

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    Quote Originally Posted by lynxeffect1 View Post
    ron i came across rxmuscle radio from jan 24 this year with dr.durlan castro who is also a bodybuilder and they talked about sleep apnea, they mentioned a version of the c or b pap where u can just insert a piece into your nostrils which is wud be way easier to wear than a mask over ur face, palumbo says thats wot he wears and reccommends that all bodybuilders choose that version ,, is this just as gud as the mask??? I have use both the mask and the nasal pillows with great success with my bi-pap. The only downfall to the nasal pillows is that they make your notrils raw/sore over-time. also dr.durlan says u have to get a sleep test first before getn a machine, is this abs nessecary when you clearly know u have it and all the sympthons, can i jus buy it and use it? you must go get sleep test and have machine prescibed by a physician. does tren have a major influence on sleep apnea, a bodybuilder in my gym said he had it bad until he stopped the tren and that stopped his apnea. tren causes insomina which make you more aware of sleep apnea because you wake up more frequently with dry mouth. when the doctor finally sends me to see the dermatologist about my acne and i ask for accutane, wil he take a blood test on me or check for steroids? if he ever did (which is unlikely) you are using over-the-counter pro-hormones but i am not a fan of accutane as it can cause tendon/disk issues. and im pretty sure ive seen u say before that i can stay on steroids if using accutane, correct? yes but watch those tendons and do not use winstrol! thanks again for ur time ron!
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    but wud you agree ron that the accutane is the best bet to actually work and be done with acne for gud because nothing else has worked and wots the point if u cant take off your top! tendon/disc issues im presuming are only a risk for the time ur on accutane and wont have any bearing when u finished your coarse?

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    Quote Originally Posted by lynxeffect1 View Post
    but wud you agree ron that the accutane is the best bet to actually work and be done with acne for gud because nothing else has worked and wots the point if u cant take off your top! tendon/disc issues im presuming are only a risk for the time ur on accutane and wont have any bearing when u finished your coarse?
    In your case, go with the accutane to get rid of it once and for all. I wouldnt use accutane without taking a small dose of deca weekly to help counteract the drying our effect of the ac****ane. And as stated before steer clear of winstrol as combining the two drugs will produce a double whammy to the joints! Avoiding anti-es would also be a wise decision on your behalf. You'll be fine once you get off accutane but be extra careful while using.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ronnie Rowland View Post
    Sounds like you are getting plenty of sun so no vitanim d is in order. I think your high blood pressure is causing the issues. Remember that high blood pressure causes an increase in heart rate and puts a strain on the kidneys. Either your body fat levels are too high or you have a heridetary condition causing high blood pressure. I feol you should lose weight by reducing carbs and start doing cardio to lower blood presure. If not you are going to have to get on a high blood pressure medication. And you need to lay off aromatizing steroids that cause water retention. Some spirolactone (prescribed directic) could help but I have a feeling your body fat levels are too high for your genetics to handle. You need to address this issue in an aggressive manner even if it means seeing a doctor. What do you think your stats are?

    stats:
    Age- 29
    Height- just about 5'6.5"
    Weight: 168lbs
    BF: average 13-14% (caliper says 10-11% and the gym device says 14%, so i rounded up to be 14% since i believe is more on the high realistic end). i have a tight body and am not considered fat and most of my fat am bothered from is around my belly area.

    i bought a bp monitor recently and have been monitering my HR too and it seems my bp is stable but my HR is always 88-92bpm which i believe is considered to be high. cortisol is 27 (6.2-19.4). Vit C intake is good (1-2g per day). Doc prescribed Xanax for 1wk and wow i never liked that that drug! made me Lethargic

    FYI i was loosing allot of fat around my belly area during my cycle and it was crazy, cause on my 7th wk i started see-ing my lower abs show up more (so i guess you know now that i dont have high fat %). My carb intake is moderate, only eat 3 meals per day that are rich in carbs and the rest do have very small amount of carbs and those are the meals after my workout

    if i do find out a solution am sure i'll update you on this
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    Quote Originally Posted by kml999 View Post
    but my HR is always 88-92bpm which i believe is considered to be high.
    Im always in this area to, I wear a HR watch and im always checking, seems when im just walking around im high 80s to low 90s.

    When im laying in bed in the morning and i check before i move, its in the 70s sometimes 60s so that eases my brain a little. The second i get out of bed though it goes right up in the 80s.

    Be curious to see what Ron says. Could just be genetics and tachycardia isnt until we hit over 100bpm resting.

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    hey ronnie, which do you prefer for bulking tren or deca? or maybe both with half the doses?
    (couldnt believe it when a successful bodybuilder i know said he only uses tren for pre comp and never to build muscle!!)

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    ronnie...this article true or not true about more tren equals more lean gains???

    How did Kevin grow into the show - the secret inside

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    You don’t need to have Kevins genetics, there is no such a thing as genetics for bodybuilding it’s only drugs, training and food. Everyone can blow up to 250+ pounds. So let’s get started…

    PHASE 1:
    3 up to 6 months a year stay of the gear (or be on trt, hrt if you’re prescribed) train or not to train it doesn't matter as long as you’re staying in the 8 to no more than 10 % range at whatever weight might it be 140 pounds to 240 pounds, main goal is to stay between 8-10% bf. Take 4-8 weeks off from heavy training before you start PHASE 2 or 3. Again STAY in the 8-10%, do cardio, eat no more than you need to maintain this bf level

    PHASE2 (you might not need it if you're already very lean, or have more time before competition):
    Lean up. The goal during this phase is to get as lean as possible 5-6% bf range (again no matter at what bodyweight, the goal is to be lean). TO achieve this you need drugs. Fast acting testosterone (like prop or ace) and tren ace 50-100mg of each eod or e3d, you don’t need a lot just for fat burining. Add Gh too. 2-4 iu’s ed. No 5on2off or eod crap, take your GH every day. Diet somewhat clean 1500-2500 calorie range. Light training, you are not going to grow during this phase, just burn as much calories as you can in the gym, don't try to lift super heavy weights and get injured before PHASE 3. You can add cardio if you need, but it’s not necessary, tren ace gh high volume training and low calorie diet will burn the fat very quickly.

    PHASE3:
    Now the funniest part starts! GROWING and staying or even dropping bf at the same time. During the next 8 weeks load up with long acting testosterone (enth, cyp, sust) at least 1000mg a week, 2-3g would work better (if combined with a lot of GH), 600-1000mg deca or eq or npp, and bump up trenbolona A to at least 500mg a week, the more – the better, you can go as high as 100-200mg ed, the more tren you’ll take the bigger, leaner and freakier physique you’ll have. GH. AT LEAST 5-10iu’s a day. But it’s minimum. If you’re taking let’s say 3000mg test and 1000+mg trena you’ll need 20 up to 30iu’s GH a day. The more the better. To combat with the water retention you’ll definitely need Arimidex 1-2 closer to the show up to 3mg a day, or you might get well with just Masteron, 100mg ed. DIET. The more drugs and GH you’ll take the less strict you’ve to be with your diet, but you NEED calories to blow up (maybe for the last 4 weeks or so you have to watch what you’re eating or eat whatever you want just add T3, clen, maybe some cardio that’s it). If you’re training, sleeping, eating, training, sleeping, eating etc…you don’t need a lot of calories during this phase. 3-4000 cals is more than enough. Drugs will do the work.

    PHASE4 (4 weeks or so before the show): (might be not required, is needed if you’re still not lean enough or holding some water )
    Switch Tes En or Cyo or Sust to Test Prop or Test Ace
    Drop Deca add Halo, Winny
    Might add some A-50
    Drop the carbs from the last 1-2 meals
    Do some cardio 20-30 min, ed/eod (depending how much fat you have)

    PHASE5 (comp day):
    Now you’re bigger, freakier and leaner than a year or so ago

    This is how it works. Kevin L have done it everyone knows the result, I’ve tried it myself and with the bunch of clients. You don’t need to get fat pig during offseason. You don’t need to have offseason at all, it is not healthy it costs a lot of money it takes time. You can grow and get lean at the same time. You can focus on other thing during your offseason. Everyone can be national level competitor if using this method in a matter of months yes months, mostly – a year or two. If you don't beleive me, just try it.
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    Hey Ron,

    Coming to an end of the 2nd reload:

    1st: 500/week test, 400/week EQ
    2nd: 1.5g/week test only

    HCG through out the cycle 500iu/week

    1. What test dosage should be for my 2nd deload? 500/week or 250/week
    2. After the 2nd deload should I wait 2 weeks before PCT or jump right into PCT
    3. For PCT: 4Weeks with following dosage. Any changes?
    Nolva: 40/40/40/40
    Clomid: 100/50/50/50

    4. Best recommendation too keep the mass during and after PCT?

    5. How long of wait before I can jump on another Blast after end of PCT? When Should I take the blood test and what items are important to look out for?

    Thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by slimshady01 View Post
    Im always in this area to, I wear a HR watch and im always checking, seems when im just walking around im high 80s to low 90s.

    When im laying in bed in the morning and i check before i move, its in the 70s sometimes 60s so that eases my brain a little. The second i get out of bed though it goes right up in the 80s.

    Be curious to see what Ron says. Could just be genetics and tachycardia isnt until we hit over 100bpm resting.
    well i think i mentioned that i had high bp symptoms during cycle, but i always check my HR at the gym all the time before my workout on the tridmill. before i cycled i used to go on the tridmill to see where my resting HR is and always noticed it being 68-74 and after my training session it reaches 128-132 MAX . Now when i started 500mg/wk of test e my resting HR reached 85 and after my training session it goes up to 150!!!! i got freaked out and decided to do more cardio, more rest between sets and lower the weight a bit and thats when i started to loose allot of fat. just to add am not fat if you check my stats in this page and once i got off cycle i decided to stop going to gym and just do cardio on my home tridmill until i figure out this issue i have. Did all various heart tests (Electrocardio, Echo Cardio, Halter 24hr heart monitor, PSA blood test and BNP). considering of doing a TMT soon. Cardioligist says i have a healthy heart and the elevated HR is from something else and asked me if am under any sort of stress. right now am typing this while am relaxed and my HR shows as 79, but a few mins ago it reached 92 while am sitting infront of the pc. Some times i get chest pain (pinching pain in the heart) when my HR goes up and its irritating sometimes when you can hear your heart beating faster and louder. I never had this issue when i used to train naturally. my sodium intake is very low and i dropped allot of sugar in my diet so i can minimize this. Even thought it could've been a reaction to food and decided to stop eating cereal,oats and any dairy product for 2-3wks and nothing improved. Will do a hormonal BW test after 2wks and see what i find out, cause i believe an imbalanced hormonal condition can cause my elevated HR.
    Last edited by kml999; 06-26-2011 at 02:04 PM.

  13. #3053
    Hey Ron
    what are your thoughts on stretching? post workout?
    and is extra V olive oil that much better than veggy oil, cannola, and etc..?
    when taking small doses of clen & T3 during a cut is there a protocol? Or can you stay on for the hole duration of the cut?

    thanx
    Last edited by kelevra; 06-23-2011 at 10:28 PM.

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    Hi, i have a question?
    i'm about to start my second cycle. right now i have a bottle of 10 ml deca 200ml and deca 300ml, (test 250 with them)
    can i use them together for my next cycle of 8 weeks,

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    Quote Originally Posted by VASCULAR VINCE View Post
    big ronnie...six most important vitamin supplements for bodybuilding?????
    iron if you are one of several bodybuilders who become anemic easily, vit c to help iron absorb ,etc, vit e, fish oil capsules, b-12 and coenzyme q 10 for some .

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    Quote Originally Posted by kml999 View Post
    well i think i mentioned that i had high bp symptoms during cycle, but i always check my HR at the gym all the time before my workout on the tridmill. before i cycled i used to go on the tridmill to see where my resting HR is and always noticed it being 68-74 and after my training session it reaches 128-132 MAX . Now when i started 500mg/wk of test e my resting HR reached 85 and after my training session it goes up to 150!!!! i got freaked out and decided to do more cardio, more rest between sets and lower the weight a bit and thats when i started to loose allot of fat. just to add am not fat if you check my stats in this page and once i got off cycle i decided to stop going to gym and just do cardio on my home tridmill until i figure out this issue i have. Did all various heart tests (Electrocardio, Echo Cardio, Halter 24hr heart monitor, PSA blood test). considering of doing a TMT soon. Cardioligist says i have a healthy heart and the elevated HR is from something else and asked me if am under any sort of stress. right now am typing this while am relaxed and my HR shows as 79, but a few mins ago it reached 92 while am sitting infront of the pc. Some times i get chest pain (pinching pain in the heart) when my HR goes up and its irritating sometimes when you can hear your heart beating faster and louder. I never had this issue when i used to train naturally. my sodium intake is very low and i dropped allot of sugar in my diet so i can minimize this. Even thought it could've been a reaction to food and decided to stop eating cereal,oats and any dairy product for 2-3wks and nothing improved. Will do a hormonal BW test after 2wks and see what i find out, cause i believe an imbalanced hormonal condition can cause my elevated HR.
    Any type of aromatizing steroid can cause an elevated heart rate if you are prone. Various drugs affect people differently. There have been some people who developed cardiomyopathy while using steroids (obviously they were genetically predisposed and the steroids just enhanced it). You can have an ekg, stress test, and even wear a halter monitor for 48 hours and still come back normal so you need more test if you are having on going issues! The next step is an echocardiogram and a nuclear imaging test to see if the doctors can see if your ejection fraction is down. When your heart isnt beating efficiently and squeezing out enough blood it makes your stroke volume lower-hence not as much blood is pumped with each beat, therefore the body compensates by making your heart beat faster. By making the heart beat faster the cardiac output is raised to near normal even though the stroke volume is much lower. Heart Rate x Stroke Volume= Cardiac Output!

    Also, when oxygen becomes low the heart is stimulated to beat faster. I have some exercise enduced athma (tren can really set this off!) and my heart rate can get out of control and I cannot catch my breath (typical asthma symptoms!). Leg training is what sets it off!

    You may need to get off all high dosages of aromatizing steroids such as test for 4 weeks then go back on and see if it starts again so you know whether or not its the steroids causing issues. If you really want to know if you have a pre-existing heart condition start with an echocardiogram. Insurance should pay for it since you have that symptom and DO NOT MENTION STEROIDS! Complain of breathlessness when doing simple task like walking up the stairs. If it continues is could develop into cardiomyopathy. With this disease your heart will not have any blockages in the coronary arteries per se, but it does get akinetic which means that it is hardly working.

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    Quote Originally Posted by slimshady01 View Post
    Im always in this area to, I wear a HR watch and im always checking, seems when im just walking around im high 80s to low 90s.

    When im laying in bed in the morning and i check before i move, its in the 70s sometimes 60s so that eases my brain a little. The second i get out of bed though it goes right up in the 80s.

    Be curious to see what Ron says. Could just be genetics and tachycardia isnt until we hit over 100bpm resting.
    Various drugs affect people differently. There have been some people who developed cardiomyopathy while using steroids (obviously they were genetically predisposed and the steroids just enhanced it). You can have an ekg, stress test, and even wear a halter monitor for 48 hours and still come back normal so you need more test if you are having on going issues! The next step is an echocardiogram and a nuclear imaging test to see if the doctors can see if your ejection fraction is down. When your heart isnt beating efficiently and squeezing out enough blood it makes your stroke volume lower-hence not as much blood is pumped with each beat, therefore the body compensates by making your heart beat faster. By making the heart beat faster the cardiac output is raised to near normal even though the stroke volume is much lower. Heart Rate x Stroke Volume= Cardiac Output!

    Also, when oxygen becomes low the heart is stimulated to beat faster. I have some exercise enduced athma (tren can really set this off!) and my heart rate can get out of control and I cannot catch my breath (typical asthma symptoms!). Leg training is what sets it off!

    You may need to get off all high dosages of aromatizing steroids such as test for 4 weeks then go back on and see if it starts again so you know whether or not its the steroids causing issues. If you really want to know if you have a pre-existing heart condition start with an echocardiogram. Insurance should pay for it since you have that symptom and DO NOT MENTION STEROIDS! Complain of breathlessness when doing simple task like walking up the stairs. If it continues is could develop into cardiomyopathy. With this disease your heart will not have any blockages in the coronary arteries per se, but it does get akinetic which means that it is hardly working.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ricky23 View Post
    hey ronnie, which do you prefer for bulking tren or deca? or maybe both with half the doses? Both have their advantages and disadvantages but tren is best overall because its more androgenic-hence lean muscle mass gains are more profound! Deca helps the joints which allows you to lift heavier but still does not produce the lean mass gains of tren. I say leave deca alone most of the time and go with tren unless you have joint problems or severe sides from tren. A little deca like 50-100mgs weekly for joints along with high doses of tren is a great combo given it does not hurt you sexually.
    (couldnt believe it when a successful bodybuilder i know said he only uses tren for pre comp and never to build muscle!!) If you have very good genetics you can be succesful using only test.
    above

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    Quote Originally Posted by VASCULAR VINCE View Post
    ronnie...this article true or not true about more tren equals more lean gains???

    How did Kevin grow into the show - the secret inside

    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------

    You don’t need to have Kevins genetics, there is no such a thing as genetics for bodybuilding it’s only drugs, training and food. Everyone can blow up to 250+ pounds. So let’s get started…

    PHASE 1:
    3 up to 6 months a year stay of the gear (or be on trt, hrt if you’re prescribed) train or not to train it doesn't matter as long as you’re staying in the 8 to no more than 10 % range at whatever weight might it be 140 pounds to 240 pounds, main goal is to stay between 8-10% bf. Take 4-8 weeks off from heavy training before you start PHASE 2 or 3. Again STAY in the 8-10%, do cardio, eat no more than you need to maintain this bf level

    PHASE2 (you might not need it if you're already very lean, or have more time before competition):
    Lean up. The goal during this phase is to get as lean as possible 5-6% bf range (again no matter at what bodyweight, the goal is to be lean). TO achieve this you need drugs. Fast acting testosterone (like prop or ace) and tren ace 50-100mg of each eod or e3d, you don’t need a lot just for fat burining. Add Gh too. 2-4 iu’s ed. No 5on2off or eod crap, take your GH every day. Diet somewhat clean 1500-2500 calorie range. Light training, you are not going to grow during this phase, just burn as much calories as you can in the gym, don't try to lift super heavy weights and get injured before PHASE 3. You can add cardio if you need, but it’s not necessary, tren ace gh high volume training and low calorie diet will burn the fat very quickly.

    PHASE3:
    Now the funniest part starts! GROWING and staying or even dropping bf at the same time. During the next 8 weeks load up with long acting testosterone (enth, cyp, sust) at least 1000mg a week, 2-3g would work better (if combined with a lot of GH), 600-1000mg deca or eq or npp, and bump up trenbolona A to at least 500mg a week, the more – the better, you can go as high as 100-200mg ed, the more tren you’ll take the bigger, leaner and freakier physique you’ll have. GH. AT LEAST 5-10iu’s a day. But it’s minimum. If you’re taking let’s say 3000mg test and 1000+mg trena you’ll need 20 up to 30iu’s GH a day. The more the better. To combat with the water retention you’ll definitely need Arimidex 1-2 closer to the show up to 3mg a day, or you might get well with just Masteron, 100mg ed. DIET. The more drugs and GH you’ll take the less strict you’ve to be with your diet, but you NEED calories to blow up (maybe for the last 4 weeks or so you have to watch what you’re eating or eat whatever you want just add T3, clen, maybe some cardio that’s it). If you’re training, sleeping, eating, training, sleeping, eating etc…you don’t need a lot of calories during this phase. 3-4000 cals is more than enough. Drugs will do the work.

    PHASE4 (4 weeks or so before the show): (might be not required, is needed if you’re still not lean enough or holding some water )
    Switch Tes En or Cyo or Sust to Test Prop or Test Ace
    Drop Deca add Halo, Winny
    Might add some A-50
    Drop the carbs from the last 1-2 meals
    Do some cardio 20-30 min, ed/eod (depending how much fat you have)

    PHASE5 (comp day):
    Now you’re bigger, freakier and leaner than a year or so ago

    This is how it works. Kevin L have done it everyone knows the result, I’ve tried it myself and with the bunch of clients. You don’t need to get fat pig during offseason. You don’t need to have offseason at all, it is not healthy it costs a lot of money it takes time. You can grow and get lean at the same time. You can focus on other thing during your offseason. Everyone can be national level competitor if using this method in a matter of months yes months, mostly – a year or two. If you don't beleive me, just try it.
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    by FREAK_290; 05-26-2011 at 04:11 AM.
    I strongly disagree that there is no such things as having good genetics for bodybuilding but I understand what he is trying to say. I do think high dosages of tren will indeed increase lean muscle mass as he states. The problem is that many people cannot tolerate such high amounts of tren. I would fare better having to breath through a straw all day long than using 200 mgs of tren every day!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ridedivefx View Post
    hey ron,

    coming to an end of the 2nd reload:

    1st: 500/week test, 400/week eq
    2nd: 1.5g/week test only

    hcg through out the cycle 500iu/week

    1. What test dosage should be for my 2nd deload? 500/week or 250/week 2502.
    After the 2nd deload should i wait 2 weeks before pct or jump right into pct both ways work but i would jump straight in.
    3. For pct: 4weeks with following dosage. Any changes? wheres the hcg? You need it!
    nolva: 40/40/40/40
    clomid: 100/50/50/50

    4. Best recommendation too keep the mass during and after pct? decrease calories slightly to keep from gaining fat, consider taking clen,keep protein intake high, reduce training volume by 1/3 if you are doing 12 sets per body part. Try only 9!5. How long of wait before i can jump on another blast after end of pct? wait 6 weeks. when should i take the blood test and what items are important to look out for? wait post cycle 6 weeks right before you begin next reload to have blood work and have them look at liver enzymes, hemocrit levels,,kidney function etc. Tell them to check everything within reason as listed below.thanks
    baseline-pre-cycle checklist (minimum checklist)
    hormone (steroid)
    lipids (standard full set)
    full liver panel
    blood
    kidney
    electrolyes, minerals,glucose
    prostrate
    thyroid
    cholesterol
    triglycerides
    c-reactive protein

    on cycle (minimum checklist)
    lipids
    livel panel
    blood kidneys
    thyroid
    electrolyes, minerals, glucose
    cholesterol
    triglycerides
    c-reactive protein



    post cycle (minimum checklist)
    hormone (steroid, lh, fsh)
    lipids (standard full set)
    liver panel
    blood
    electrolytes, etc
    prostrate
    thyroid
    cholesterol
    triglycerides
    c-reactive protein

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ronnie Rowland View Post
    Any type of aromatizing steroid can cause an elevated heart rate if you are prone. Various drugs affect people differently. There have been some people who developed cardiomyopathy while using steroids (obviously they were genetically predisposed and the steroids just enhanced it). You can have an ekg, stress test, and even wear a halter monitor for 48 hours and still come back normal so you need more test if you are having on going issues! The next step is an echocardiogram and a nuclear imaging test to see if the doctors can see if your ejection fraction is down. When your heart isnt beating efficiently and squeezing out enough blood it makes your stroke volume lower-hence not as much blood is pumped with each beat, therefore the body compensates by making your heart beat faster. By making the heart beat faster the cardiac output is raised to near normal even though the stroke volume is much lower. Heart Rate x Stroke Volume= Cardiac Output!

    Also, when oxygen becomes low the heart is stimulated to beat faster. I have some exercise enduced athma (tren can really set this off!) and my heart rate can get out of control and I cannot catch my breath (typical asthma symptoms!). Leg training is what sets it off!

    You may need to get off all high dosages of aromatizing steroids such as test for 4 weeks then go back on and see if it starts again so you know whether or not its the steroids causing issues. If you really want to know if you have a pre-existing heart condition start with an echocardiogram. Insurance should pay for it since you have that symptom and DO NOT MENTION STEROIDS! Complain of breathlessness when doing simple task like walking up the stairs. If it continues is could develop into cardiomyopathy. With this disease your heart will not have any blockages in the coronary arteries per se, but it does get akinetic which means that it is hardly working.
    my cardioligist knows about my AAS usage (i told him cause he looked educated to me and understanding). He didnt record it and thats why my insurance covered me for the tests. by the way since you mentioned about the low oxygen i did book an apointment last month to do a respiration test and am still on the waiting list though. i have the echocardiogram results and doctor said they look good. echocardiogram results came in 3-4 pages of value and pictures of the heart. Audio recording were taken from different chamber areas of the heart to confirm any sort of strange rythems or blockage and he did put the speaker on every time he did a test so i listen and get convinced. will do a tridmil monitor test soon since i requested it to see how my heart reacts under activity. will definatly ask about the nuclear imaging test.

    just to add the humidaty percentage where i live is 98-100% which is terrible for the lungs and know allot of poeple around me who always run around with inhalers. so maybe it has an effect on my lungs oxygen delivery?

    fyi i used to be a moderate to heavy smoker. recently have been successful to quit it the last 2-3 months. Did a chest xray to check heart and lungs. Cardioligist confirms the heart is in good size and there is no enlargment and lungs dont show any sort of toxin deposits yet or any sort of noticable damage, but did get convinced that its time to quit so i can deticate myself for bb. the only thing that i started using are e-cigs and they really helped me to quit cigs and all the other tobacos i used. Did a research on them before using and it seems it only has one slightly bad chemical (propylene glycol). this chemical is not considered to be dangerous compared to the 4000 bad chemicals in a normal cig. Am not saying e-cigs are healthy, but am sure its way less health damage compared to the real cigs. am currently using 0 nicotine liquid in the e-cig to see if its from the nicotine causing this elevated HR and until now i didnt reach to a conclusion.

    am off cycle since March and know for sure something is still not right. the heart pinching pain is way less off cycle and it happens like once every 3 days right now. doc did tell me that my heart beating is in rythem. Dont worry i wont go on any AAS until i get a clear view of whats going on!

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    Ronnie, what are your views on the Mountain Dog Diet which is kinda similar to Paleo?

    http://articles.elitefts.com/article...uscle-or-both/

    Thanks!

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    once you have sleep apnea and get a machine, does this cure the apnea or wil you be using this machine as long as ur bodybuilding? since tren is so strong is there a limit to the amount of time u shud use it before taking a break , ie; 2 reloads then a break
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    Quote Originally Posted by djdizzy View Post
    Ronnie, what are your views on the Mountain Dog Diet which is kinda similar to Paleo?

    http://articles.elitefts.com/article...uscle-or-both/

    Thanks!
    I have followed this style of diet for years. I was big into Western A Price and what he tought.

    I would drive to Rock Hill SC and buy my Raw Milk straight from a licensed dairy farm.

    Now money is tight and can no longer afford the drive to SC from NC on a weekly basis. Also grass fed beef and free range eggs are expensive.

    The premis of that diet is to eat whole natural foods from animals fed foods natural to them as well.

    I would like to see what Ronnie says about this way of eating. As a matter of fact I sometimes use Coconut oil in my preworkout shake.

    Ronnie what do you think of coconut oil "MCT fat".

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    Sir, Ronnie can u give me a steroid cycle for insane strength cause 250mg test enanthate has no strength gain I want a big strength gain and less side effects using steroids thanks a lot sir.
    Last edited by bgvillones; 06-25-2011 at 02:20 AM.

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    i am off cycle and its been like 3 months after my PCT and suddenly after all that time i started to gets small red acne spots on my back, does that mean am going through a rebound?

    fyi i didnt have acne issues during cycle (very very minor acne on the back and shoulder). once i got off cycle and started pct those minor acne disappeared, but why would it show suddenly and with more strength after 3 months from pct ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ronnie Rowland;567***1
    baseline-pre-cycle checklist (minimum checklist)
    hormone (steroid)
    lipids (standard full set)
    full liver panel
    blood
    kidney
    electrolyes, minerals,glucose
    prostrate
    thyroid
    cholesterol
    triglycerides
    c-reactive protein

    on cycle (minimum checklist)
    lipids
    livel panel
    blood kidneys
    thyroid
    electrolyes, minerals, glucose
    cholesterol
    triglycerides
    c-reactive protein



    post cycle (minimum checklist)
    hormone (steroid, lh, fsh)
    lipids (standard full set)
    liver panel
    blood
    electrolytes, etc
    prostrate
    thyroid
    cholesterol
    triglycerides
    c-reactive protein
    Thanks for the above and how much HCG should I take during the 4 week PCT of nolva/clomid? I have been taking 500iu/week through out the 20 week blast

    Also - during the PCT and the 6 week after I continue reloading/deloading for workouts right? meaning 12 sets heavy and then 2 weeks higher reps and 6-9 sets

    Thnx
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    Quote Originally Posted by kml999 View Post
    well i think i mentioned that i had high bp symptoms during cycle, but i always check my HR at the gym all the time before my workout on the tridmill. before i cycled i used to go on the tridmill to see where my resting HR is and always noticed it being 68-74 and after my training session it reaches 128-132 MAX . Now when i started 500mg/wk of test e my resting HR reached 85 and after my training session it goes up to 150!!!! i got freaked out and decided to do more cardio, more rest between sets and lower the weight a bit and thats when i started to loose allot of fat. just to add am not fat if you check my stats in this page and once i got off cycle i decided to stop going to gym and just do cardio on my home tridmill until i figure out this issue i have. Did all various heart tests (Electrocardio, Echo Cardio, Halter 24hr heart monitor, PSA blood test). considering of doing a TMT soon. Cardioligist says i have a healthy heart and the elevated HR is from something else and asked me if am under any sort of stress. right now am typing this while am relaxed and my HR shows as 79, but a few mins ago it reached 92 while am sitting infront of the pc. Some times i get chest pain (pinching pain in the heart) when my HR goes up and its irritating sometimes when you can hear your heart beating faster and louder. I never had this issue when i used to train naturally. my sodium intake is very low and i dropped allot of sugar in my diet so i can minimize this. Even thought it could've been a reaction to food and decided to stop eating cereal,oats and any dairy product for 2-3wks and nothing improved. Will do a hormonal BW test after 2wks and see what i find out, cause i believe an imbalanced hormonal condition can cause my elevated HR.
    Yes a hormonal imbalance can cause this issue (especially from the usages of aromatizing steroids like test/d-bol/anadrol for those few who are prone. Also, thyroid levels can cause irregular heart rythmns . Have you had thyroid levels checked? High hemocrit could also cause this occurence causing blood to thicken.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kelevra View Post
    Hey Ron
    what are your thoughts on stretching? post workout? post workout is best and IMO avoid extreme stetching like Doggcrap Training advocates.and is extra V olive oil that much better than veggy oil, cannola, and etc..? Definetly better than vegetable oil and somewhat better than canola.when taking small doses of clen & T3 during a cut is there a protocol? Or can you stay on for the hole duration of the cut? I would not stay on clen for over 8 weeks and on t-3 for 12 weeks. Yes there are several effective protocols. For t-3 ramp up from 25 to 50 daily after first week and hold. With clen start at 40 per day and increase by 20 every 2 weeks until you peak out at 120 (if you can handle that much) or run clen at 2 weeks on/1 week off at 80 per day while on. thanx
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    Quote Originally Posted by chrisxkx View Post
    Hi, i have a question?
    i'm about to start my second cycle. right now i have a bottle of 10 ml deca 200ml and deca 300ml, (test 250 with them)
    can i use them together for my next cycle of 8 weeks,
    you can but thats only enough gear to make a female grow. You need more!

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    Quote Originally Posted by kml999 View Post
    my cardioligist knows about my AAS usage (i told him cause he looked educated to me and understanding). He didnt record it and thats why my insurance covered me for the tests. by the way since you mentioned about the low oxygen i did book an apointment last month to do a respiration test and am still on the waiting list though. i have the echocardiogram results and doctor said they look good. echocardiogram results came in 3-4 pages of value and pictures of the heart. Audio recording were taken from different chamber areas of the heart to confirm any sort of strange rythems or blockage and he did put the speaker on every time he did a test so i listen and get convinced. will do a tridmil monitor test soon since i requested it to see how my heart reacts under activity. will definatly ask about the nuclear imaging test.

    just to add the humidaty percentage where i live is 98-100% which is terrible for the lungs and know allot of poeple around me who always run around with inhalers. so maybe it has an effect on my lungs oxygen delivery? YES HIGH HUMIDITY CAUSES ASTHMA LIKE SYMPTOMS WHICH IN TURNS MAKES THE HEART RATE INCREASE!
    fyi i used to be a moderate to heavy smoker. recently have been successful to quit it the last 2-3 months. Did a chest xray to check heart and lungs. Cardioligist confirms the heart is in good size and there is no enlargment and lungs dont show any sort of toxin deposits yet or any sort of noticable damage, but did get convinced that its time to quit so i can deticate myself for bb. the only thing that i started using are e-cigs and they really helped me to quit cigs and all the other tobacos i used. Did a research on them before using and it seems it only has one slightly bad chemical (propylene glycol). this chemical is not considered to be dangerous compared to the 4000 bad chemicals in a normal cig. Am not saying e-cigs are healthy, but am sure its way less health damage compared to the real cigs. am currently using 0 nicotine liquid in the e-cig to see if its from the nicotine causing this elevated HR and until now i didnt reach to a conclusion. IT WILL TAKE A WHILE TO GET OVER THE SIDE EFFECTS OF SMOKING. THOSE CIGARS CAN KILL YOU!am off cycle since March and know for sure something is still not right. the heart pinching pain is way less off cycle and it happens like once every 3 days right now. doc did tell me that my heart beating is in rythem. Dont worry i wont go on any AAS until i get a clear view of whats going on! Good and lay off caffeine!
    above

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    [QUOTE=djdizzy;5678465]Ronnie, what are your views on the Mountain Dog Diet which is kinda similar to Paleo?

    http://articles.elitefts.com/article...uscle-or-both/

    Thanks![/QUOTE]I certainly cannot disagree with what he has to say. I know hes right about all the corn oils being bad. Unfortunately, healthy foods cost more money but many are worth it IMO.

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    [QUOTE=lynxeffect1;5678487]once you have sleep apnea and get a machine, does this cure the apnea or wil you be using this machine as long as ur bodybuilding? It has nothing to do with bodybuilding. Genetics cause sleep apnea and you will be on a bi-pap forever in order to control it! since tren is so strong is there a limit to the amount of time u shud use it before taking a break , ie; 2 reloads then a break I know people who run test and tren year round with no problems but if it causes you to have bad insomnia then you need a break from it.[/QUOTE]above

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ronnie Rowland View Post
    Yes a hormonal imbalance can cause this issue (especially from the usages of aromatizing steroids like test/d-bol/anadrol for those few who are prone. Also, thyroid levels can cause irregular heart rythmns . Have you had thyroid levels checked? High hemocrit could also cause this occurence causing blood to thicken.
    TSH,t3,t4 hemocrit values were all good pre,mid and post cycle
    BNP and PSA values after cycle were all good too

    my echocardiogram result summary:
    No regional wall motion abnormality
    normal LV function
    normal valves
    IAS/IVS intact, no clot/pericardial effusion

    you mentioned something about the ejection fraction and the value came 62.8%

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    Sir, Ronnie can u give me a steroid cycle for insane strength cause 250mg test enanthate has no strength gain I want a big strength gain and less side effects using steroids thanks a lot sir.

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    ronnie..would love your opinion on...... discountsupplements.com...board sponsor..

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    ronnie...please provide us your opinion of this post.........!!


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    I absolutely love stuff like this! Absolutely love it!

    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------

    I cant stand people in life (bodybuilding and outside bodybuilding) who sit there and complain that they want to be something or do something but dont take the steps to get there or dont apply themselves....its my big pet peeve.

    How many times do i tell people.....

    Eat your way up into the weight class you want to be in.

    Want to be a light heavy? Better be weighing 238 offseason
    Want to be a heavyweight? Better be weighing 265 offseason
    Want to be a Superheavyweight? Better be weighing 280 plus in the offseason!!!!

    I love guys like this who say "FU...I am just doing it...FAST!

    how much shit does this guy below get daily from people? Probably alot, look they are allready giving him crap on that board.

    Offseaon 280lbs!! - Muscular Development Forums

    That sure as hell aint freaking pretty...or comfortable but I'll tell you what....I admire a guy who decides to put 20 pounds on his contest stage bodyweight in a years time and make some major changes.
    That guy used food for his anabolic....and yep he got big and doughy but he is going to be onstage even larger than these pics from last year show......


    This sport is tremendously tough in deciding what you want to do with it....do you want to be club guy who looks in shape year round but gains hardly anything from year to year?

    or do you want to make major changes, throw caution of bodyfat to the wind, and suffer while coming down?

    (I think there is a middle ground and thats what I would prefer)

    but I like people who "get after it...and go for it"......this guy wants to look different to the judges than he did last time and is going to

    Could he do it in a more comfortable way and one thats a little bit prettier? Yea he could.....but this guy is awesome....he hits the accelerator hard and says "Up yours...im jumping weight classes yearly while you guys toil 10 years to make your jumps!"

    Did i say I love it? I love it.

    Know what I hate? Guys who try to do that and lose the big picture of why they tried to do that in the first place and get fat.....and then years later when they are lean again they forgot what put on that 20-30 pounds of muscle they now have....and tell everyone who will listen "I stay lean now in the offseason and find i can make quality gains that way.....I once got fat and I wont do that again"

    THATS WHAT PUT THE FREAKING SIZE ON YOU!!!!!!! Try to make a 20-30 pound jump in muscle mass again at 8%!!!!! YOU WONT!

    Ok thats enough of my rant today.

    Does it have to be done exactly like that guy? NOPE....but I love people who got the balls to go after it with the eye on the prize....I hope that guy comes in looking like a monster again ..... its just really fun for me to watch guys like that who dont have their ego wrapped up in a skintight slinky t-shirt year round.

    I'm all for what anyone likes to do in this sport....you want to be lean guy year round and look great pulling off your shirt at the beach? Go for it...you have my respect....just dont put down someone else that has different goals than you do.

    You want to be big bloated powerbuilding guy who puts on alot of muscle from year to year? Go for it....just dont put down lean guy who has abs year round above......you got your thing, he has his.

    But I personally love guys like this who take the bullet train to point B from point A and dont give a flying F&&k what anyone thinks about it.....I think thats awesome....more power to him. And there will be a slew of guys who say "oh thats unhealthy, oh i wouldnt do it that way, he looks like shit in the offseason, etc etc etc"......thats why I like it so much, he doesn't give a crap that he isnt a prettyboy offseason and has his eye on the prize..........have you gone from a small heavy to big heavyweight to superheavyweight in 3 years?

    his first year below as a small heavy (won that local show)

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    ronnie...is it possible to enter a show al shredded without doing cardio??? time restraints are a bitch!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by slimshady01 View Post
    I have followed this style of diet for years. I was big into Western A Price and what he tought.

    I would drive to Rock Hill SC and buy my Raw Milk straight from a licensed dairy farm.

    Now money is tight and can no longer afford the drive to SC from NC on a weekly basis. Also grass fed beef and free range eggs are expensive.

    The premis of that diet is to eat whole natural foods from animals fed foods natural to them as well.

    I would like to see what Ronnie says about this way of eating. As a matter of fact I sometimes use Coconut oil in my preworkout shake.

    Ronnie what do you think of coconut oil "MCT fat". I think coconut ol should be eaten inlinited amounts (especially by steroid users because it's high in saturated fats which are known for causing a reduction in blood flow due to arteries through constriction.
    above

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    Quote Originally Posted by bgvillones View Post
    Sir, Ronnie can u give me a steroid cycle for insane strength cause 250mg test enanthate has no strength gain I want a big strength gain and less side effects using steroids thanks a lot sir.
    For starters try this-
    1 gram of test-e weekly
    400 grams of tren-e weekly
    75 mgs of anadrol or 50 mgs of d-bol daily
    .

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