ok, i gotya, i was thinking of primo......ok, I can safely assume that you will gain at least 20 lbs from this...I have a friend who took 75mg/tren eod over a 10 week period and gained close to 20 lbs. and thats with tren alone....I'm not saying you shouldn't do that cycle. It looks damn good. But I think you're gonna get a hell of a lot more out of it than you're expecting. Good Luck... I may run that one myself.