Lab results

[RoidReaper]

Ok so as i said before, i was on cycle for nearly 2 years lol. Combination of everything.. i used it all. Tren test eq deca anadrol etc...

Ive finished 2 weeks of PCT (so far) and this is what my labs came back as.

Total T: 197 ng/dl
E2: 27
LH: 0.2
FSH: 0.7

Sooo yea... Totally sucks.

[Flier]

Ok so as i said before, i was on cycle for nearly 2 years lol. Combination of everything.. i used it all. Tren test eq deca anadrol etc...

Ive finished 2 weeks of PCT (so far) and this is what my labs came back as.

Total T: 197 ng/dl
E2: 27
LH: 0.2
FSH: 0.7

Sooo yea... Totally sucks.

Yes, sucks.
The obvious culprit is your Pit right?
Even after the Triptorelin, and the PCT meds, the LH is only 0.2. Odd.
Ask Swifto to look at those numbers, he probably has an idea what is going on.

[RoidReaper]

Yes, sucks.
The obvious culprit is your Pit right?
Even after the Triptorelin, and the PCT meds, the LH is only 0.2. Odd.
Ask Swifto to look at those numbers, he probably has an idea what is going on.

Well the test seems higher than i thought it would be lol. I mean i abused tren and deca, and i thought they would have been much lower.

[marcus300]

You need to give yourself around 8 weeks after pct to get a better guide but things aren't looking to well but they wont be after 2 yrs continuous shutdown. Hang in there and give it time ( I hope you have an aggressive pct protocol )

[RoidReaper]

You need to give yourself around 8 weeks after pct to get a better guide but things aren't looking to well but they wont be after 2 yrs continuous shutdown. Hang in there and give it time ( I hope you have an aggressive pct protocol )

Didnt use HCG. im probably going to do a HCG blast with some HMG and then restart SERM use, Clomid 100/50/50/50/50/50

Or just say **** it and stay ont rt right? lol

[Flier]

Didnt use HCG. im probably going to do a HCG blast with some HMG and then restart SERM use, Clomid 100/50/50/50/50/50

Or just say **** it and stay ont rt right? lol

Finish it, then another BW.
HCG to kickstart your Leydigs won´t make any difference if you´re not putting out any LH.

And you´re right. Your Test is high considering your Pit is shut down.
Are u sure those LH/FSH values are correct?
In Europe, if the value is less than 1, we get no reading.

[Windex]

Didnt use HCG. im probably going to do a HCG blast with some HMG and then restart SERM use, Clomid 100/50/50/50/50/50

Or just say **** it and stay ont rt right? lol

Does your doctor know you juiced ? If not you could probably get away with being put on TRT (if that is an option you are interested in) if you just showed him your lab results over the next few months.

[RoidReaper]

Does your doctor know you juiced ? If not you could probably get away with being put on TRT (if that is an option you are interested in) if you just showed him your lab results over the next few months.

He said hed give me TRT, but i dont want to be on TRT at my age. I want ti try recovery. However whats funny is, a few days after my blood work, i upped my clomid to 100mg a day and my nuts got really big. Sooo maybe there is hope?

[RoidReaper]

Finish it, then another BW.
HCG to kickstart your Leydigs won´t make any difference if you´re not putting out any LH.

And you´re right. Your Test is high considering your Pit is shut down.
Are u sure those LH/FSH values are correct?
In Europe, if the value is less than 1, we get no reading.

Those are the correct LH/FSH values..

[Windex]

Finish it, then another BW.
HCG to kickstart your Leydigs won´t make any difference if you´re not putting out any LH.

And you´re right. Your Test is high considering your Pit is shut down.
Are u sure those LH/FSH values are correct?
In Europe, if the value is less than 1, we get no reading.

Different units of measurement/volume and difference reference ranges.

[RoidReaper]

so what should i do. I did the shot of GnRh and it obviously didnt do anything.

Soo should i go ahead and slam 1000iu of HCG today and then continue with 500iu E3d for 2 weeks and then jump on SERMs again?

[M302_Imola]

why aren't you using nolva with the clomid?

[Windex]

so what should i do. I did the shot of GnRh and it obviously didnt do anything.

Soo should i go ahead and slam 1000iu of HCG today and then continue with 500iu E3d for 2 weeks and then jump on SERMs again?

If you are 2 weeks into PCT this is what I would do (Anyone is welcome to correct me if I am giving bad advice). 4 more weeks of PCT with SERM's and NO HCG. After your 6 weeks of an aggressive PCT bridge for 5-6 weeks with HCG @ 500 IU's/week. Get bloodwork done at the end of the 5-6 weeks. If the levels are still inadequate do another aggressive PCT for 6 weeks and bridge again with HCG @ 1000 IU's/week. 6 weeks of HCG and get bloodwork done again. If the levels are still low then I would assume TRT is needed.

[Flier]

If you are 2 weeks into PCT this is what I would do (Anyone is welcome to correct me if I am giving bad advice). 4 more weeks of PCT with SERM's and NO HCG. After your 6 weeks of an aggressive PCT bridge for 5-6 weeks with HCG @ 500 IU's/week. Get bloodwork done at the end of the 5-6 weeks. If the levels are still inadequate do another aggressive PCT for 6 weeks and bridge again with HCG @ 1000 IU's/week. 6 weeks of HCG and get bloodwork done again. If the levels are still low then I would assume TRT is needed.

Imo that will again suppress his Pit/LH.
(He will induce the Testies to produce test with HCG. The Pituitary recognizes this and does not send LH, and remains/reverts to being suppressed)

[Lemonada8]

not necessarily. People have used HCG to boost test. It doesnt really supress, but it does lower the responsiveness to LH which gives the impression of being suppressed.

and i hope that triptorelin was only 100mcg. with those values, thats close to chemical castration but ur test is higher which suggests otherwise. too much of that stuff (3.75mg) will suppress u for about 4 months...

just continue w/ ur planned pct and wait it out i guess... it will take time to bounce back after all ur suppression.

[RoidReaper]

why aren't you using nolva with the clomid?

Cause i hate Nolva, i got better results with clomid.

However even tho my levels are 197, i expected them to be MUCH lower due to the high doses of tren and deca i used and being on high doses of test for 2+ years.

[Pac Man]

How about torm?
I'd be going hardcore on PCT after 6 wks. Hate it or not, it's probably better than the alternative

[RoidReaper]

How about torm?
I'd be going hardcore on PCT after 6 wks. Hate it or not, it's probably better than the alternative

Im going to run 2000iu E3D (5 injects) and then run Clomid 50mg and Nolva 20mg for 4 more weeks, and then get blood work.

[RoidReaper]

How about torm?
I'd be going hardcore on PCT after 6 wks. Hate it or not, it's probably better than the alternative

Im going to run 2000iu E3D (5 injects) and then run Clomid 50mg and Nolva 20mg for 4 more weeks, and then get blood work.

[Pac Man]

sounds like a good plan, good luck man.

[RoidReaper]

I hope it worksss

[RoidReaper]

I figured im just gonna use some Nolvadex... might as well. Should i run The torem i have left over with the clomid till ym Tamox arrives or just stick to the clomid.