Low free T

[blacksmoke]

So I got a script for androgel last month, and today convinced my uro to change it to test cyp. Finally!
100mg per week. No arimidex or HCG yet.
This guy knows very little about trt and admitted that to me. I would obviously prefer an experienced trt dr but he is my only choice. I actually had to tell him the name was cypionate.lol
He will let me home inject once he knows that I am able to.
I still only have my orignal bloods and will push to have them done once I'm home injecting. Same for an AI and HCG
I didn't want to push for everything all at once as I thought that would overwhelm him and just tell me no.
Just happy to have this almost all figured out!

[steroid.com 1]

So I got a script for androgel last month, and today convinced my uro to change it to test cyp. Finally!
100mg per week. No arimidex or HCG yet.
This guy knows very little about trt and admitted that to me. I would obviously prefer an experienced trt dr but he is my only choice. I actually had to tell him the name was cypionate.lol
He will let me home inject once he knows that I am able to.
I still only have my orignal bloods and will push to have them done once I'm home injecting. Same for an AI and HCG
I didn't want to push for everything all at once as I thought that would overwhelm him and just tell me no.
Just happy to have this almost all figured out!

Jumping into this thread late I know, but...

For your age your TSH level is way way to high. Many of the symptoms you feel may well indeed be attributed to this along with your Test values. As noted here, anything over 3 is a problem. Optimal TSH levels are 1 to 2; anything higher then that will not only pose neg sides BUT puts you at significant risk of cardiovascular disease later on in life...shit you not. You need to see TSH, Free T4 and Free T3, RT3 at a minimum.

Your FSH an LH panels, while not clinically low are at the bottom of the "normal" range...and presenting with symptoms...highly suggests a problem.

Do you know that Dr. John Crisler will consult with your Endo and help him get your right? He charges a fee, however, it's modest in light of the help you need from a Doc who openly admits not understanding these types of protocols.

Might want to give it serious consideration...I know I would.

Don't let him tell you are normal, a lot of Endo's "in the know" know that the TSH ranges are not representative of health. In fact some labs are now lowing the high end of TSH to 3 and some even to 2.5! You need to understand why your TSH levels are so high. Your thyroid gland is not functioning normally and I am willing to bet a case of beers you have a hypothyroid.

[blacksmoke]

Jumping into this thread late I know, but...

For your age your TSH level is way way to high. Many of the symptoms you feel may well indeed be attributed to this along with your Test values. As noted here, anything over 3 is a problem. Optimal TSH levels are 1 to 2; anything higher then that will not only pose neg sides BUT puts you at significant risk of cardiovascular disease later on in life...shit you not. You need to see TSH, Free T4 and Free T3, RT3 at a minimum.


Your FSH an LH panels, while not clinically low are at the bottom of the "normal" range...and presenting with symptoms...highly suggests a problem.

Do you know that Dr. John Crisler will consult with your Endo and help him get your right? He charges a fee, however, it's modest in light of the help you need from a Doc who openly admits not understanding these types of protocols.

Might want to give it serious consideration...I know I would.

Don't let him tell you are normal, a lot of Endo's "in the know" know that the TSH ranges are not representative of health. In fact some labs are now lowing the high end of TSH to 3 and some even to 2.5! You need to understand why your TSH levels are so high. Your thyroid gland is not functioning normally and I am willing to bet a case of beers you have a hypothyroid.

I talked about everthing that you mentioned to my endo to no avail. He was very stubborn and set in his ways. He really didn't seem to like the fact that I knew as much as I did.
Everytime I brought up a new point he shut me down, just didn't want to here it.

As for my uro, once I feel comfortable I will bring up Dr Chrisler. I actually had a printout of his ready for yesterday but opted to wait.
Will Dr Chrisler deal with thyroid issues? Thanks for the input.

[steroid.com 1]

I talked about everthing that you mentioned to my endo to no avail. He was very stubborn and set in his ways. He really didn't seem to like the fact that I knew as much as I did.
Everytime I brought up a new point he shut me down, just didn't want to here it.

As for my uro, once I feel comfortable I will bring up Dr Chrisler. I actually had a printout of his ready for yesterday but opted to wait.
Will Dr Chrisler deal with thyroid issues? Thanks for the input.

As per my PM; yes.

That Endo is hurting you. Plead your case to the Uro and have everything ready for him to read. You'll find the right help soon.

BTW, are their compounding pharmacies in Canada? If so, you can search for ones near you (Google Earth: search on "compounding Pharmacies" and see). If so, they can usually help in referring Docs who prescribe TRT protocols complete with Test Cyp, HCG and Anastrozole.

[blacksmoke]

As per my PM; yes.

That Endo is hurting you. Plead your case to the Uro and have everything ready for him to read. You'll find the right help soon.

BTW, are their compounding pharmacies in Canada? If so, you can search for ones near you (Google Earth: search on "compounding Pharmacies" and see). If so, they can usually help in referring Docs who prescribe TRT protocols complete with Test Cyp, HCG and Anastrozole.

Theres actually a compounding pharmacy 5 mins from my house. I'll have to go and ask some questions.

[zaggahamma]

Jumping into this thread late I know, but...

For your age your TSH level is way way to high. Many of the symptoms you feel may well indeed be attributed to this along with your Test values. As noted here, anything over 3 is a problem. Optimal TSH levels are 1 to 2; anything higher then that will not only pose neg sides BUT puts you at significant risk of cardiovascular disease later on in life...shit you not. You need to see TSH, Free T4 and Free T3, RT3 at a minimum.

Your FSH an LH panels, while not clinically low are at the bottom of the "normal" range...and presenting with symptoms...highly suggests a problem.

Do you know that Dr. John Crisler will consult with your Endo and help him get your right? He charges a fee, however, it's modest in light of the help you need from a Doc who openly admits not understanding these types of protocols.

Might want to give it serious consideration...I know I would.

Don't let him tell you are normal, a lot of Endo's "in the know" know that the TSH ranges are not representative of health. In fact some labs are now lowing the high end of TSH to 3 and some even to 2.5! You need to understand why your TSH levels are so high. Your thyroid gland is not functioning normally and I am willing to bet a case of beers you have a hypothyroid.

the quality of your posts will outweigh any tardiness to the party bro...great post as usual

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the quality of your posts will outweigh any tardiness to the party bro...great post as usual

Coming from you; big compliment. Thanks man, just trying to help the brothers!

[blacksmoke]

Jumping into this thread late I know, but...

For your age your TSH level is way way to high. Many of the symptoms you feel may well indeed be attributed to this along with your Test values. As noted here, anything over 3 is a problem. Optimal TSH levels are 1 to 2; anything higher then that will not only pose neg sides BUT puts you at significant risk of cardiovascular disease later on in life...shit you not. You need to see TSH, Free T4 and Free T3, RT3 at a minimum.

Your FSH an LH panels, while not clinically low are at the bottom of the "normal" range...and presenting with symptoms...highly suggests a problem.

Do you know that Dr. John Crisler will consult with your Endo and help him get your right? He charges a fee, however, it's modest in light of the help you need from a Doc who openly admits not understanding these types of protocols.

Might want to give it serious consideration...I know I would.

Don't let him tell you are normal, a lot of Endo's "in the know" know that the TSH ranges are not representative of health. In fact some labs are now lowing the high end of TSH to 3 and some even to 2.5! You need to understand why your TSH levels are so high. Your thyroid gland is not functioning normally and I am willing to bet a case of beers you have a hypothyroid.

What is RT3? Never heard of that one. More research!

[zaggahamma]

What is RT3? Never heard of that one. More research!

think it was a typo bro...T3 he meant...he likes to throw a few back from time to time...and imma lil late editing for a brutha....T3

[steroid.com 1]

think it was a typo bro...T3 he meant...he likes to throw a few back from time to time...and imma lil late editing for a brutha....T3

Yea, I do like to throw a few back; you only go around once in this thing we call life!

Ok, no typo this time: Reverse T3 (RT3). I won't go into all the details here. The best Thyroid site on the Internet has it all.

Go here to learn about Reverse T3 and why it's important in understanding Thyroid health: http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/reverse-t3/

[blacksmoke]

Yea, I do like to throw a few back; you only go around once in this thing we call life!

Ok, no typo this time: Reverse T3 (RT3). I won't go into all the details here. The best Thyroid site on the Internet has it all.

Go here to learn about Reverse T3 and why it's important in understanding Thyroid health: http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/reverse-t3/

I just bookmarked that one, thanks.