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  1. #1
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    Quote Originally Posted by davrlaw View Post
    hey ronnie.

    Im going to start my first cycle soon.

    Stats are 27yo

    6'2

    200 pounds

    12%

    i have 80iu of glotropin ready to go, i just have to work out what gear to use and what pct i should consider.

    Everyone tells me i should do test only for my first time, now can you explain what test is?

    Stana is not test, nor is deca from what i have read, by test do people mean test suspension? Is sus 250 test? you want to go with test enanthate, test cypionate, test propionate or even sustanon (test 250) for a first cycle. Do not use test suspension. I recommend test-e or test-c.

    also what and how should i do a pct? run hcg for about 21 days when you get off. 2500 every other day is a good plan

    your help and advice is appreciated.
    Thanks

    ps i know what testosterone is but just don't know how to differentiate test and non test.
    above

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ronnie Rowland View Post
    above
    Hi Ronnie, thanks for that, question, do i wait until i finish the cycle before hcg or should i start using hcg before i finish the cycle?

    thanks

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    Hey Ron,
    I've now determined that after my cut is finished on Oct 31st I'll have been on straight (not counting deloads) for 15 months. I'm 47 so I won't be coming off completely or doing PCT but was thinking of dropping to 250 mg per week of Sustanon. Right now I'm doing Test P/ Tren E/Masteron E/Anavar/Proviron. How long do you recommend staying at 250 mg afterwards before my next cycle and when would you start dropping the dose figuring Oct 31st would be showtime? Maybe just drop the Prop down on the 29th, then stop the Tren/Mast on the 31st? Also, what things specifically should I have checked when I have blood work done and how long afterwards should I wait to do it?

    Last thing. I asked about gh dosing and you said 4 iu's twice a day is best for growth. Would you want to ramp up to that or do you think you could just hit it high like that from the beginning? Also, why do some guy's take a day off or two off from hgh. Do you think taking 1 or two days off is advisable or just go everyday? Thanks Ron.

    One more week and I'm ready to add a second Triceps exercise. I'll let you know...
    Last edited by The Titan99; 09-11-2011 at 09:50 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Titan99 View Post
    Hey Ron,
    I've now determined that after my cut is finished on Oct 31st I'll have been on straight (not counting deloads) for 15 months. I'm 47 so I won't be coming off completely or doing PCT but was thinking of dropping to 250 mg per week of Sustanon. Right now I'm doing Test P/ Tren E/Masteron E/Anavar/Proviron. How long do you recommend staying at 250 mg afterwards before my next cycle and when would you start dropping the dose figuring Oct 31st would be showtime? Maybe just drop the Prop down on the 29th, then stop the Tren/Mast on the 31st? Also, what things specifically should I have checked when I have blood work done and how long afterwards should I wait to do it?

    Last thing. I asked about gh dosing and you said 4 iu's twice a day is best for growth. Would you want to ramp up to that or do you think you could just hit it high like that from the beginning? Thanks Ron.

    One more week and I'm ready to add a second Triceps exercise. I'll let you know...

    you are looking great in your new avi titan! transformation is incredible, looking awesome!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ricky23 View Post
    you are looking great in your new avi titan! transformation is incredible, looking awesome!
    Thanks a lot Ricky. I've not got a complete grip on this cutting business, but I'm getting better at it!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by the titan99 View Post
    hey ron,
    i've now determined that after my cut is finished on oct 31st i'll have been on straight (not counting deloads) for 15 months. I'm 47 so i won't be coming off completely or doing pct but was thinking of dropping to 250 mg per week of sustanon. Right now i'm doing test p/ tren e/masteron e/anavar/proviron. How long do you recommend staying at 250 mg afterwards before my next cycle 4-6 weeks and when would you start dropping the dose figuring oct 31st would be showtime? if you are doing a show i stop sustanon 4 weeks out, tect-c 3 weeks out, test-e 2 weeks out and prop 1 week out..maybe just drop the prop down on the 29th, then stop the tren/mast on the 31st? if you are doing a show keep in tren/mast until after the show. also, what things specifically should i have checked when i have blood work done and how long afterwards should i wait to do it? wait 4 weeks after being off and mainly check, cholesterol, liver, kidneys, thyroid, hemocrit levels,

    last thing. I asked about gh dosing and you said 4 iu's twice a day is best for growth. Would you want to ramp up to that or do you think you could just hit it high like that from the beginning? i would start out at 4ius once at night for first week then go to 8 ius daily. Also, why do some guy's take a day off or two off from hgh. The old school way of thinking is that if you took off the weekends it allowed your body to keep producing its own natural release of HGH Do you think taking 1 or two days off is advisable or just go everyday? Go everyday thanks ron.

    One more week and i'm ready to add a second triceps exercise. I'll let you know...
    above

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    Quote Originally Posted by davrlaw View Post
    hi ronnie, thanks for that, question, do i wait until i finish the cycle before hcg or should i start using hcg before i finish the cycle?if you are staying on a long cycle i would use it during the cycle but if you are simply doing one 20 week slingshot cycle wait until aftter you finish

    thanks
    above

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