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    Someone asked me the question a while back as to- "why some people take weekends off during their use of GH (5 days on/2 days off)". It's to try and prevent insulin resistance. Those who run insulin along with GH don't have to worry about this problem.

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    ^^That was me, thanks Ron. So, since I'm not going to take any insulin, (I know you don't) do you think it's still best to go 7 days a week with the gh?

    I hurt my arm doing heavy curls again!!!! DAMN!! Felt a pop half way through the second rep. The physio said it's not too bad, but it hurts to rotate my wrist both ways. Tri pushdowns don't hurt, but bi anything, flies and pulling (back) do. 3 weeks from the end of my cut!! (I've been reloading for 16 weeks now) All I can really do is legs and incline presses (still have rotator problems with my right shoulder so I can't do decline or flat bench) and work my right arm on bi/tri day. I guess this is says a lot for Slingshot Training and periodization. I said earlier I really didn't want to prime after the 31st, but is this a good indicator of a need for it? Would you deload for 2 weeks, then prime or prime then reload (or deload)? God this is frustrating as hell!! Does this happen to a lot of guys in contest prep?

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    Quote Originally Posted by the titan99 View Post
    ^^that was me, thanks ron. So, since i'm not going to take any insulin, (i know you don't) do you think it's still best to go 7 days a week with the gh?

    I hurt my arm doing heavy curls again!!!! Damn!! Felt a pop half way through the second rep. The physio said it's not too bad, but it hurts to rotate my wrist both ways. Tri pushdowns don't hurt, but bi anything, flies and pulling (back) do. 3 weeks from the end of my cut!! (i've been reloading for 16 weeks now) all i can really do is legs and incline presses (still have rotator problems with my right shoulder so i can't do decline or flat bench) and work my right arm on bi/tri day. I guess this is says a lot for slingshot training and periodization. I said earlier i really didn't want to prime after the 31st, but is this a good indicator of a need for it? Would you deload for 2 weeks, then prime or prime then reload (or deload)? God this is frustrating as hell!! Does this happen to a lot of guys in contest prep?
    you should not be lifting heavy after the age of 40 under any circumstances (especially pre-contest) if you you are prone to joint/tendon pain like you have been experiencing. You need to always pre-exhaust with cable curls for biceps before even thinking about doing a few sets of free weight work, if at all. Use slow reps and concentrate of getting a nice squeeze! Think bodybuilding not powerlifting!!! You are just going to keep hurting yourself because you apparently have thin tendons and they cannot keep up with your muscle growth.

    Regarding gh- if diabetes runs in your family then 5 days on/2 days off would be a good idea if you plan to use long term.


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    [QUOTE=Ronnie Rowland;5770017][b]you should not be lifting heavy after the age of 40 under any circumstances (especially pre-contest) if you you are prone to joint/tendon pain like you have been experiencing. You need to always pre-exhaust with cable curls for biceps before even thinking about doing a few sets of free weight work, if at all. Use slow reps and concentrate of getting a nice squeeze! Think bodybuilding not powerlifting!!! You are just going to keep hurting yourself because you apparently have thin tendons and they cannot keep up with your muscle growth.

    Regarding gh- if diabetes runs in your family then 5 days on/2 days off would be a good idea if you plan to use long term.


    Thanks Ron. Yea,I'm sure your right as usual. There are a few lifts where it seems I get to a certain weight and then get injured, slowly work my way back, then it happens again. BB/EZ bar curls 52.5/55 kg is the wall. Decline/flat bench 145 kg. Skull crushers were another one but I quit doing those so I can't remember the weight. Then again there are exercises like squats/Deads (anything back work related) where it seems like the skys the limit.

    So how do you achieve progressive overload if you don't use more and more weight? Do you think pre-exhausting the muscle with cables like you suggested, slower reps, maybe more volume? Shorter intervals between sets? Maybe not move up in weight till I hit 12-15 reps? I've always tried to increase weight at 9-10 reps for my first set. I don't care about powerlifting (luckily!!) but I definitely want to get bigger. Getting old REALLY blows. People have been telling me that I was too old to be doing what I'm doing for 20 years now. Looks like its finally happening. Maybe the GH will help...

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    [QUOTE=The Titan99;5770534]
    Quote Originally Posted by Ronnie Rowland View Post
    [b]you should not be lifting heavy after the age of 40 under any circumstances (especially pre-contest) if you you are prone to joint/tendon pain like you have been experiencing. You need to always pre-exhaust with cable curls for biceps before even thinking about doing a few sets of free weight work, if at all. Use slow reps and concentrate of getting a nice squeeze! Think bodybuilding not powerlifting!!! You are just going to keep hurting yourself because you apparently have thin tendons and they cannot keep up with your muscle growth.

    Regarding gh- if diabetes runs in your family then 5 days on/2 days off would be a good idea if you plan to use long term.


    Thanks Ron. Yea,I'm sure your right as usual. There are a few lifts where it seems I get to a certain weight and then get injured, slowly work my way back, then it happens again. BB/EZ bar curls 52.5/55 kg is the wall. Decline/flat bench 145 kg. Skull crushers were another one but I quit doing those so I can't remember the weight. Then again there are exercises like squats/Deads (anything back work related) where it seems like the skys the limit.

    So how do you achieve progressive overload if you don't use more and more weight? YOU ARE NOT GOING TO KEEP GETTING STRONGER AND STRONGER BUT YOU CAN CHANGE THINGS UP A BIT TO TRY AND CREATE MORE STRESS SUCH AS LESS REST BETWEEN SETS, MORE SETS, AND TRAINING EACH BODY PART TWICE A WEEK ON OCCASION. CONSISTENCY WITH DIET/TRAINING/ANABOLICS IS KEY. MOST OF US DO NOT HAVE THE MONEY IT TAKES OR THE GENETIC POTENTIAL TO LOOK LIKE THE PROS YOU SEE IN MAGAZINES. Do you think pre-exhausting the muscle with cables like you suggested, slower reps, maybe more volume? THATS ONE WAY! Shorter intervals between sets? YES BUT DONT GO TOO FAST OR THE MUSCLES WILL QUIT FIRING AND THE STRESS WILL RUN INTO THE TENDONS! Maybe not move up in weight till I hit 12-15 reps? YES! I've always tried to increase weight at 9-10 reps for my first set. I don't care about powerlifting (luckily!!) but I definitely want to get bigger. Getting old REALLY blows. I KNOW...LOL People have been telling me that I was too old to be doing what I'm doing for 20 years now. Looks like its finally happening. Maybe the GH will help...SOME IF ITS PHARM GRADE
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    [QUOTE=The Titan99;5770534]
    Quote Originally Posted by Ronnie Rowland View Post
    [b]you should not be lifting heavy after the age of 40 under any circumstances (especially pre-contest) if you you are prone to joint/tendon pain like you have been experiencing. You need to always pre-exhaust with cable curls for biceps before even thinking about doing a few sets of free weight work, if at all. Use slow reps and concentrate of getting a nice squeeze! Think bodybuilding not powerlifting!!! You are just going to keep hurting yourself because you apparently have thin tendons and they cannot keep up with your muscle growth.

    Regarding gh- if diabetes runs in your family then 5 days on/2 days off would be a good idea if you plan to use long term.


    Thanks Ron. Yea,I'm sure your right as usual. There are a few lifts where it seems I get to a certain weight and then get injured, slowly work my way back, then it happens again. BB/EZ bar curls 52.5/55 kg is the wall. Decline/flat bench 145 kg. Skull crushers were another one but I quit doing those so I can't remember the weight. Then again there are exercises like squats/Deads (anything back work related) where it seems like the skys the limit.

    So how do you achieve progressive overload if you don't use more and more weight? Do you think pre-exhausting the muscle with cables like you suggested, slower reps, maybe more volume? Shorter intervals between sets? Maybe not move up in weight till I hit 12-15 reps? I've always tried to increase weight at 9-10 reps for my first set. I don't care about powerlifting (luckily!!) but I definitely want to get bigger. Getting old REALLY blows. People have been telling me that I was too old to be doing what I'm doing for 20 years now. Looks like its finally happening. Maybe the GH will help...
    I WANTED TO ADD ONE MORE THING HERE FOR YOU TO TRY AND THAT IS DOING LESS VOLUME. I HAVE RECENTLY HAD TO REDUCE ARM BICEP AND TRICEP VOLUME TO ONLY 6 SETS A PIECE DUE TO MY TENDONS. WHEN I DO MORE VOLUME WITH THE HEAVIER WEIGHT LOADS IT FLARES UP. THATS ANOHTER OPTION FOR YOU AND KEEP IN MIND YOU'LL NEED TO REDUCE CHEST, DELTS AND BACK WORK AS WELL TO KEEP FROM OVER STRESSING THOSE TENDONS.

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