first cycle, could use help

[died4nothing]

hey guys, new here. i'm 26, 6'0, 205lbs an have 14%bf. i have run a couple of ph cycles so am familiar with pct, cycle length and assistance. but i'm sure there are changes to that once u switch to injectables. i just don't know those changes. anyway, my question here is for my first aas cycle, what should i take? i've read test enathate at 500mg for 12 weeks would be good. then of coarse there's the decca, dbol, test stack....just lookin for some input and general guide lines switchen from orals to injectables......my goal is 240lbs and less then 10%bf. any help is def appreciated. thanks

[Matt]

First cycle should be test only, so your idea of test e at 500mgs ew looks a good starting point, save the other compounds for your next cycle....

What about a planned pct???

[marcus300]

If you read in the education threads you will get a better understanding on how to design a first cycle, there are also other useful threads what could be of great interest to you.

Usually the first cycle would be test only something like this

wks 1-12 -500mgs Test E
250ius hcg 2 x weekly throughout the cycle
To hand during the cycle get some aromasin incase estrogen related sides,
PCT 14 days after last shot, standard PCT nolva 40/20/20/20 clomid 100/50/50/50

Keep with a single compound for your first cycle and most importantly make sure your diet can support the new tissue your going to build otherwise it will be a waste of time.

[died4nothing]

First cycle should be test only, so your idea of test e at 500mgs ew looks a good starting point, save the other compounds for your next cycle....

What about a planned pct???

if pct for aas are anything like ph's then it'll prolly be
nolva 30/20/20/10..cortisol controll and test booster......i'm guessing for aas i'll need summin stronger

[died4nothing]

If you read in the education threads you will get a better understanding on how to design a first cycle, there are also other useful threads what could be of great interest to you.

Usually the first cycle would be test only something like this

wks 1-12 -500mgs Test E
250ius hcg 2 x weekly throughout the cycle
To hand during the cycle get some aromasin incase estrogen related sides,
PCT 14 days after last shot, standard PCT nolva 40/20/20/20 clomid 100/50/50/50

Keep with a single compound for your first cycle and most importantly make sure your diet can support the new tissue your going to build otherwise it will be a waste of time.

thanks man..i have seen in other forums to take hcg but what is it? and is it a research chem? as i am having trouble locating everything i need. i ask about hcg cause my runs wit ph cycles i never had to use it. i understand everythng else tho, so thank u..........also wit the ai, aromasin or arimadex? if there both the same ignore my ignorance

[marcus300]

thanks man..i have seen in other forums to take hcg but what is it? and is it a research chem? as i am having trouble locating everything i need. i ask about hcg cause my runs wit ph cycles i never had to use it. i understand everythng else tho, so thank u..........also wit the ai, aromasin or arimadex? if there both the same ignore my ignorance

If you go to the profile section you will be able to read up on each compound in detail. Then head to the PCT section and do some reading in the stickies. We all had to start somewhere so get your reading glasses Best of luck

[died4nothing]

will do, thanks

[died4nothing]

question though. At 205lbs what do u think my calorie intake should be for a good size bulk with minimal fat gain. While running 500mg of test e for 12 weeks?

[Matt]

Im 5'10 and currently 240lbs however when i last bulked from your weight i was consuming around 4500 t0 5000cals daily....

Head over to the diet forum bro and start a thread over there, you will get the best dieting advice possible...

[died4nothing]

Im 5'10 and currently 240lbs however when i last bulked from your weight i was consuming around 4500 t0 5000cals daily....

Head over to the diet forum bro and start a thread over there, you will get the best dieting advice possible...

cool, thanks man

[died4nothing]

hey MATT. says ur a mod on this forum. i keep getting errors when i try to post or send pm. i just joined so there should be no reason my account should be banned. i'd send an e-mail but can't find where to send it to. hopefully u read this or sumone does so it can get fixed. thanks

[hsvcraig]

You need to post up so many posts before you can pm, I think for me it was around 30 but ppl say it's around 100 so not sure but post away

[Matt]

hey MATT. says ur a mod on this forum. i keep getting errors when i try to post or send pm. i just joined so there should be no reason my account should be banned. i'd send an e-mail but can't find where to send it to. hopefully u read this or sumone does so it can get fixed. thanks

Your not banned and some posts get caught in the spam filters. You also need 50 posts before you can pm people bro...

[died4nothing]

ahh gotcha thanks guys. I wasn't sure if i was able to ask in forum so was gona ask in pm. But in my search for some legit stuff let's say. I got a pm on a different forum from someone saying they could help me out. Since I am new to the world of aas it would be vain to just assume it was legit n send my money away. I was wondering if there's a way to check. I figured wit everyone being in the know an in a tight community u guys would know if thas legit or a scam....I'm always skeptical of what I can n can't say so If I overstep let me know n it won't happen again

[bjohnson1968]

Yea your treading very close get ready for all the scammers to hit you up now...Anyone willing to "help you out" when they don't know you...Think a little bit brah!!

ITS GONNA BE A SCAM and you can't ask for sources here either and I'm assuming you need a lot more time for anyone to give you a source check..

Peace

[Matt]

ahh gotcha thanks guys. I wasn't sure if i was able to ask in forum so was gona ask in pm. But in my search for some legit stuff let's say. I got a pm on a different forum from someone saying they could help me out. Since I am new to the world of aas it would be vain to just assume it was legit n send my money away. I was wondering if there's a way to check. I figured wit everyone being in the know an in a tight community u guys would know if thas legit or a scam....I'm always skeptical of what I can n can't say so If I overstep let me know n it won't happen again

What you need to do mate is stay active and once you have enough posts a willing staff member will advise whether or not these places are legit, thats the safest way of doing it..

[sir.solidarity]

Stick to just test.
MAYBE a kick starter like d-bol, but do some reading on it first.

[died4nothing]

i figured it would be a scam. Sucks that it's so common. Thanks for the info tho. Balls. I'm anxious as hell to get started. Hey i got a bottle of superdrol left over from my last ph cycle. Alright to run that for four weeks? I'm sure I'll b able to locate somethin before then. I'll have my cycle assist n liver aids of coarse. Just wanna make sure it would be alright to start off wit the sd. would be run at 30/30/30/30.

[songdog]

Stick with the test only this go round.

[died4nothing]

I found what I was looking for but now I need an ai to run with it. What are my options? Can I use nolva? I read arimadex is my best bet...Is arimadex available as a research chem? This should be the last thing I need help wit. Thanks in advance

[died4nothing]

With this cycle, how do Idose the liquidex. Got it from rui

[died4nothing]

With this cycle, how do Idose the liquidex. Got it from rui

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nevermind, i got the info on that

[died4nothing]

I got impatient after reading forum after forum about people kickstartn there cycles cause test takes till week 4 till It really get's goin. I knw how no1 likes ph's. But had a bottle of sd n figured what the hell. So today is day 4 on the sd. I dnt get my test till this thurs when I get paid. I can just start the test when I get it right. Question is do I minus a week from the 12 planned, because of being on sd a week prior to starting the test? or still run 12 weeks (actually 13) when I get test? I'm asking cause Ive read 12 weeks is not that hard to bounce back from. Alot use hcg but I'm not messin wit it. I'll take trib for my lh levels during pct. Speaking of PCT. I've read alot of diff opinions on duration, ai's, serm's. I'm confused an I just need something concrete that'll work. I got nolva, clomid, liquidex on hand. Thank u much

[died4nothing]

Well turns out I go thro my friend who goes through a guy, who goes through a guy, who goes through a pharmacyst that get's his stuff overseas.. Ha so that is a process. Looks like I gtta wait AWHILE b4 I can get the TEST. But he has EQUIPOISE in hand I can get. He said enough for a 5 week cycle. I have read up on it and have questions.

1.) Is 5 weeks even going to do anything for me? (Will dose between 400-600mg EW)

2.) (I will have to combine it with TEST of some sort since the injectable version's not available to me at this time)........Would 1AD or 4AD work? if not what would?

3.) What changes would need to be made to PCT?.................Thanks for ur time n help guys

[dtob]

Well turns out I go thro my friend who goes through a guy, who goes through a guy, who goes through a pharmacyst that get's his stuff overseas.. Ha so that is a process. Looks like I gtta wait AWHILE b4 I can get the TEST. But he has EQUIPOISE in hand I can get. He said enough for a 5 week cycle. I have read up on it and have questions.

1.) Is 5 weeks even going to do anything for me? (Will dose between 400-600mg EW)

2.) (I will have to combine it with TEST of some sort since the injectable version's not available to me at this time)........Would 1AD or 4AD work? if not what would?

3.) What changes would need to be made to PCT?.................Thanks for ur time n help guys

Oh no ... You should never mention eq in the forums as it will immediately cause an endless debate lol

[The Bear 79]

Oh no ... You should never mention eq in the forums as it will immediately cause an endless debate lol

Yeah but every time we talk about Eq., we gain a new member to MR10X's "elite ignore crew"!!

[dtob]

Yeah but every time we talk about Eq., we gain a new member to MR1X's "elite ignore crew"!!

Hahahawesome !

[The Bear 79]

Well turns out I go thro my friend who goes through a guy, who goes through a guy, who goes through a pharmacyst that get's his stuff overseas.. Ha so that is a process. Looks like I gtta wait AWHILE b4 I can get the TEST. But he has EQUIPOISE in hand I can get. He said enough for a 5 week cycle. I have read up on it and have questions.

1.) Is 5 weeks even going to do anything for me? (Will dose between 400-600mg EW)

2.) (I will have to combine it with TEST of some sort since the injectable version's not available to me at this time)........Would 1AD or 4AD work? if not what would?

3.) What changes would need to be made to PCT?.................Thanks for ur time n help guys

5 wks isn't a cycle, especially with long esters. Just b patient & wait 4 the Test., make sure u get enuf 4 @ least 10 wks if not 12 & dont waste ur $$$$ on Eq., save it or choose another compound. A simple Nolva PCT dosed @ 40/40/20/20 should b fine.

[died4nothing]

Thanks for the info and not just saying " research bra". So sik of that sht. I only askd bout eq cause he had it on hand n wasn't askn much 4 it. From what I read, I knew eq would have to be run for longer cycle. But figured I'd ask. I'll take ur guy's advice n just wait for the Test. Suuucks

[died4nothing]

I'm in week 9 of overall cycle. But only in week 5 of Test. As MethylMasteron(sd) was run at the start for 4 weeks. Frontloaded a gram for 1st week of Test. libido is up, so is strength....I.E..
40lbs added to Bench
70lbs added to Deadlift
40lbs added to Squat
My weight has gone from 195lbs to 210lbs. Although that was in the first 4 weeks. I think (SD) has givin me all my weight an some strength gains. I have not gained any weight from being on just Test yet. But It is increasing my strength. I have a little acne on my back n shoulders. The only mood change I have noticed is increased sexual aggresion (for lacking a better word). Increased hornyness might be a better way to say it. Also an increase in emotional sensitivity (estro emo). Things are going good. Breakin pr's and It feels great. Wish more weight gain would happen. I am eatin all the time but nuthin. Will update again later on.

[acaddell]

I have just recently started testosterone. My normal testostereone was checked before the doc would prescribe and it was at about 400 which is low. I am 50 years old. The doctor gave me a 10 week supply at 200 mg per week. My question is how can this help if the 200 us actually lower than what my body is producing naturally? I would appreciate any response. Also at this low amount will my natural production decrease? I am using testosterone Cyprionate. If I indeed to get stronger and bigger from this will I lose it after I run out. I am not using any clomid or anything to help with that. Thanks in advance for any help anyone can give.

[havehotasianwife]

I'm in week 9 of overall cycle. But only in week 5 of Test. As MethylMasteron(sd) was run at the start for 4 weeks. Frontloaded a gram for 1st week of Test. libido is up, so is strength....I.E..
40lbs added to Bench
70lbs added to Deadlift
40lbs added to Squat
My weight has gone from 195lbs to 210lbs. Although that was in the first 4 weeks. I think (SD) has givin me all my weight an some strength gains. I have not gained any weight from being on just Test yet. But It is increasing my strength. I have a little acne on my back n shoulders. The only mood change I have noticed is increased sexual aggresion (for lacking a better word). Increased hornyness might be a better way to say it. Also an increase in emotional sensitivity (estro emo). Things are going good. Breakin pr's and It feels great. Wish more weight gain would happen. I am eatin all the time but nuthin. Will update again later on.

when i did superdrol, my gain was slightly under 20 pounds. i did 4 weeks as well,, 10/20/20/20 then 4 weeks of nolva while taking all my other pct supports and everything during entire cycle of sd. so for your to gain that much your first 4 weeks. def i would say is the sd. 15-20 pounds is about the average most people report. just make sure to keep the cals up or else after sd the gains can be lost VERY quick. good work with everything you do my forum friend

[died4nothing]

havehotasianwife..
Thanks for chyming in on the sd. I was def thinkin all the weight was comin from that. I'm a def fan of sd, hardens u up, good strength gains. The only thing that sucks is the muscle pumps. Well more like cramps. Easily taken care ov wit some taurine tho. I'm gonna take inject. masteron next cycle n see how the gains differ from the tabs.

[havehotasianwife]

I got back pumps that were immobilizingly painful. Didn't start till the day I stopped superdrol. I didn't know about taurine until two days into the pain lol. My fault

[died4nothing]

Thas rough man. I know what ya mean tho. Had one in my upper back, near my neck that I thought was an injury cause of pain. It doesn't aromatize but I do think it lowers ur estro just enough to dry u out. I welcome estro. Good for bulking an keepin everythng lubed. U jus gotta know the point when ur gettn 2 much cause the sides r a bitch

[died4nothing]

First of all. Thanks 2 everyone for answering my newb questions witout givn me to much sh*t. I have learned alot and continue 2. Question.....
I read people have visual impairment from clomid and also alot of emotional sides. At what dosage do these things become a problem. I drive 4 my work. So double vision is no good. And I really don't feel like bein emo. I do want 2 use it tho, as it's goin 2 get my levels up faster. Thanks

[havehotasianwife]

No drinking. Thats a gimme though