Quote Originally Posted by Furious.George View Post
Please be patient. There's a lot of conflicting info out there. You know I appreciate you and your (terse) advice.its not terse, you just dont seem to listen



The only problem I see with that statement is in that link in my last post. What if HGH does nothing without AAS? I guess that's a risk I'll have to take at this point. my gf's brother has been on hgh for over a year, never touched AAS in his life, fantastic results for what he wants



Sounds like you're not worried about me getting gyno. OK, I'm convinced. (Until someone drops in with more conflicting info.) you are not getting gyno from low dose anavar. ive been caught out and had extremely sore nips and lumps forming for 3wks on tren and test, got an AI and boom they disappeared, ive not got any gyno. i can shoot 300mg tets pw and not get gyno symptoms. now for the shock, im gyno prone!!



Like I said: I have no frame of reference having never used anything other than sarms and a low dose of var, but from my experience I think you're being a bit harsh on the S4. i would try anything once and ive never ever had a desire to try tht, ive heard NONE of the top guys on here even ever mention it, hence ive never bothered

My first week on S4 was not my first week at the gym, and the results, and especially how quickly I saw results, were nothing short of amazing for me.

I can unequivocally say it was not a placebo effect. not convinced, a change in diet and the anavar could have had you 'feeling it'

If something else is stronger, which I'm sure something else is, then I don't need stronger.

The effect did wear out quickly, and increasing my dose didn't seem to help.



Crap (from a reputable source). thats a big oxymoron right there lol

I got expected sides once I got above 3.5IU/day, so I assume it's real means nothing, they use mimicking agents in fake hgh.
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