Leave the winny tabs alone. They will wreck your cholesterol worse than anything. Some people will take them and say "I felt fine." You can't feel your hdl in the single digits. I have been there and done that with the blood work to prove it. Test/tren cycle will be plenty to get you ripped as long as your diet changes some. I'm just on test & growth right now and lean and very vascular. It can be done bro.