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    Quote Originally Posted by crazy_rocks View Post
    when i said we i obviously didnt mean me and you personally. it is very clear that i was talking about we as a nation. now of course that doesnt mean it has to stay that way but it is a recurring theme.
    its great.

    no they do not DICTATE our policies to us. we have people who CHOOSE to back them. nobody makes us back them. now we have obama who was trying to tell israel to stop building homes on their land. now thats DICTATING.

    man, its almost like you wish death on them. sounds familiar. yes they will have their day. but it will not end how you want it to. i dont think it will be great either but they will hang it there considering everyone who will probably get involved. there are a lot of things we could stop spending money on so we could use it ourselves. many many things. however it wouldnt matter if finance had nothing to do with it. you dont like the idea that we publicly take their side in the world stage. it bothers you.
    I do not wish death on anyone unless its someone who harmed my family. I would just like the US to back a different country, preferrably a country that gives back via natural resources to the US for the greater good, not take, take, take, whine, whine, cry, whine, take, take like Israel does.

    Example: 15 Years ago Qatar was damn near bankrupt Now Qatar has become the weathiest/richest country on earth per capita due to its LNG/LPG, and Qatar thanks US investors in its Laffan refinery for that wealth by paying back over 1000% of what was intitially invested as a gift. This is a great give & take story unlike Israel who is a take country.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wmaousley View Post
    I do not wish death on anyone unless its someone who harmed my family.
    oh, well thats quite a difference to these statements by you earlier

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    while we are on our bombing mission to Iran we should drop them early over Israel instead
    and

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    Israel will have its day, I am hoping sooner than later.
    it sounds like you do wish harm on them. even those who agree with your opinion would not deny what you meant.

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    I would just like the US to back a different country,
    sounds like you would like more than JUST that based on those statements. i dont think its wrong to conclude at all that you see it this way regardless of
    our support for israel. like i said earlier, this sounds familiar.

    Quote Originally Posted by wmaousley View Post
    preferrably a country that gives back via natural resources to the US for the greater good, not take, take, take, whine, whine, cry, whine, take, take like Israel does.
    completely understandable. and it has happened. i remember we defended kuwait who we were buying oil from then saddam invaded to take the oil with the larger goal of controlling the arab world. guess what happened? it was labeled a war over oil completely disregarding the idea that its rightful to defend a energy supply from an aggressor.
    when we get involved in places that benefit us we get called names of evil. no matter what we do its never good enough and we get scrutinized. there is no such thing as doing what others see fit anymore. people will always whine and cry like you..wait thats what you accused them of doing. they have a lot to issues that they express but you call it whining and crying.

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    Quote Originally Posted by crazy_rocks View Post
    oh, well thats quite a difference to these statements by you earlier


    and


    it sounds like you do wish harm on them. even those who agree with your opinion would not deny what you meant.


    sounds like you would like more than JUST that based on those statements. i dont think its wrong to conclude at all that you see it this way regardless of
    our support for israel. like i said earlier, this sounds familiar.


    completely understandable. and it has happened. i remember we defended kuwait who we were buying oil from then saddam invaded to take the oil with the larger goal of controlling the arab world. guess what happened? it was labeled a war over oil completely disregarding the idea that its rightful to defend a energy supply from an aggressor.
    when we get involved in places that benefit us we get called names of evil. no matter what we do its never good enough and we get scrutinized. there is no such thing as doing what others see fit anymore. people will always whine and cry like you..wait thats what you accused them of doing. they have a lot to issues that they express but you call it whining and crying.
    good post(s)

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    Quote Originally Posted by jpkman View Post
    good post(s)
    thanx. its extremely easy to take apart everything he says. i feel like newt. we've been through this a few times. im not sure why he responds thinking he'll come out the victor anymore. it puzzles me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by crazy_rocks View Post
    thanx. its extremely easy to take apart everything he says. i feel like newt. we've been through this a few times. im not sure why he responds thinking he'll come out the victor anymore. it puzzles me.
    lmao

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    Quote Originally Posted by crazy_rocks View Post
    thanx. its extremely easy to take apart everything he says. i feel like newt. we've been through this a few times. im not sure why he responds thinking he'll come out the victor anymore. it puzzles me.
    SO there is a trophy? wtf dude, I for one am not looking for any victory, that must be you. I am just stating my opinion along with some facts about US policies that need to be changed and its obvious we yes you and me got off track.

    Sry OP, Rick Santorum will not be president because he lacks the ability to seperate church & state which by not distinguishing between the 2 he will not get the backing of AIPAC and the democrats vote that comes with their backing.

    Most likely AIPAC will back Mitt Romney or Obama again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wmaousley View Post
    SO there is a trophy? wtf dude, I for one am not looking for any victory, that must be you. I am just stating my opinion along with some facts about US policies that need to be changed and its obvious we yes you and me got off track.

    Sry OP, Rick Santorum will not be president because he lacks the ability to seperate church & state which by not distinguishing between the 2 he will not get the backing of AIPAC and the democrats vote that comes with their backing.

    Most likely AIPAC will back Mitt Romney or Obama again.
    no. no trophy. its just board humor. ok i'll admit. i do get competitive. once i get a goofy smart a** of an idea for a comment i gotta run with it. its like
    a gnarly a** syndrome.

    as far as who wins anyone of us could be right...by chance. this whole thing has been crazy. personally ive tried staying away from political predictions
    this time. the primaries have taken a lot of unexpected turns these past few months and i expect more. i have no
    idea who will support who but as long as its understood what separation of church and state is and that its not apart of
    the constitution. im not saying you dont know but considering the misconception we have now days i wanted to tap on that.

    some think it means both church and state staying out of each others business while it was actually about the state staying out of churches
    business. again, not saying you dont know but so many people misuse it in legal cases it makes me mad. yes the things he has been
    saying could hurt him although it has helped but anything could change as this progresses. i never thought santorum would go this far.

    i will be on the edge of my seat for tomorrows super tuesday. i wonder whats going to happen.
    Last edited by crazy_rocks; 02-27-2012 at 07:49 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by crazy_rocks View Post
    no. no trophy. its just board humor. ok i'll admit. i do get competitive. once i get a goofy smart a** of an idea for a comment i gotta run with it. its like
    a gnarly a** syndrome.

    as far as who wins anyone of us could be right...by chance. this whole thing has been crazy. personally ive tried staying away from political predictions
    this time. the primaries have taken a lot of unexpected turns these past few months and i expect more. i have no
    idea who will support who but as long as its understood what separation of church and state is and that its not apart of
    the constitution. im not saying you dont know but considering the misconception we have now days i wanted to tap on that.

    some think it means both church and state staying out of each others business while it was actually about the state staying out of churches
    business. again, not saying you dont know but so many people misuse it in legal cases it makes me mad. yes the things he has been
    saying could hurt him although it has helped but anything could change as this progresses. i never thought santorum would go this far.

    i will be on the edge of my seat for tomorrows super tuesday. i wonder whats going to happen.
    mini super tuesday...

    i think ricky winning tomorrow will be better for newts chances overall

    santorum has a good message and like he states himself he is polar opposite husein i prefer newt, ricky, then, romney, and paul over huesein...the economy would turn around but i'd be building a bunker and stockpiling weapons

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    Quote Originally Posted by crazy_rocks View Post
    oh, well thats quite a difference to these statements by you earlier


    and


    it sounds like you do wish harm on them. even those who agree with your opinion would not deny what you meant.


    sounds like you would like more than JUST that based on those statements. i dont think its wrong to conclude at all that you see it this way regardless of
    our support for israel. like i said earlier, this sounds familiar.

    What I meant ( i apologize for the misconception) by the statements to get rid or bomb Israel is in no means I want them to die.It was said meaning I wish the governments of those countries would fall. Look the world is in check right now due to Iran, Palestein, Syria, Russia, China, Israel and I am sure a few more. These countries need to work out their issues without US involvement being lobbied by the Israeli's.

    completely understandable. and it has happened. i remember we defended kuwait who we were buying oil from then saddam invaded to take the oil with the larger goal of controlling the arab world. guess what happened? it was labeled a war over oil completely disregarding the idea that its rightful to defend a energy supply from an aggressor. WHy are you pointing this out? Who cares about Kuwait?

    when we get involved in places that benefit us we get called names of evil. no matter what we do its never good enough and we get scrutinized. there is no such thing as doing what others see fit anymore. people will always whine and cry like you..wait thats what you accused them of doing. they have a lot to issues that they express but you call it whining and crying.
    I never whine nor cry. I dont wear my feelings on my sleeve. And it is whining when Benjamin Netanyahu goes to the whitehouse and begs for the US government to intervein into the Iranian issues. Even Obama made a comment that (Paraphrase) "the Israeli government whines like little kids if they dont get their way".

    Look and this is it from me. As a former US soldier who served in Iraq and lost my share of friends, and now have more on the chopping block because US Policies, specifically Defense strategy by the pentagon to boost arms grants to israel worth hundreds of billions of dollars over the next 5 years. I am pissed, why do we have a ***** ass administration thats willing to make defense budget cuts thus causing thousands of US soldiers to lose their jobs so we can fit "Grants" to Israel in our defense budget?

    You may like these policies, and I respect that. However in my eyes Americans are far more important to me than any other countries citizens. God bless the US, UK & KSA and fvck the rest of the world,

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    Quote Originally Posted by wmaousley View Post
    What I meant ( i apologize for the misconception) by the statements to get rid or bomb Israel is in no means I want them to die.It was said meaning I
    wish the governments of those countries would fall. Look the world is in check right now due to Iran, Palestein, Syria, Russia, China, Israel and I am sure
    a few more. These countries need to work out their issues without US involvement being lobbied by the Israeli's.
    so you want them to get bombed but they shouldnt die? yeah ok. why are you even attempting to explain? its
    not like your gonna get arrested or anything. and no the world is not in check due to these countries. the U.S. has kept things in check more than anyone
    in the history of the world. if it were not for us most of these countries would have already started war. iran keeping things in check? yeah with their
    support for terrorism. thats really keeping things in check. maybe if your an muslim exremist you might think that (notice im not saying islam in
    general) russia would have attempted to take over the rest of europe, and who knows what else. china would not have let taiwan stay independent from
    cummunist rule. palestine and syria? maybe nothing. we can speculate, who cares. hey but thats cool. oh wait i know. many peace deals that didnt last
    had more U.S. involvement than anyone else. why dont you think before you type?

    Quote Originally Posted by wmaousley View Post
    WHy are you pointing this out? Who cares about Kuwait?
    caring about kuwait is irrelevant to the point i made....because you need to pay attention to the point i made. we get judged if we do things that help
    out interests and that dont benefit us a lot. go read it again with those clear thoughts in mind. kuwait was an example that if we stick to our interests only we still get judged.

    Quote Originally Posted by wmaousley View Post
    I never whine nor cry. I dont wear my feelings on my sleeve. And it is whining when Benjamin Netanyahu goes to the whitehouse and begs for the US
    government to intervein into the Iranian issues.
    of course you were not crying or whining. i was just saying that. that was just my BS interpretation just like you interpret that they whine and cry because
    they say what they have to say.

    Quote Originally Posted by wmaousley View Post
    Even Obama made a comment that (Paraphrase) "the Israeli government whines like little kids if they dont
    get their way".
    he doesnt really take their side on the issues like past presidents have. obama, being
    insulting to someone he doesnt agree with? no way! thats a new one.

    Quote Originally Posted by wmaousley View Post
    Look and this is it from me.
    im not surprised.

    Quote Originally Posted by wmaousley View Post
    As a former US soldier who served in Iraq and lost my share of friends, and now have more on the chopping block
    because US Policies, specifically Defense strategy by the pentagon to boost arms grants to israel worth hundreds of billions of dollars over the next 5
    years. I am pissed, why do we have a ***** ass administration thats willing to make defense budget cuts thus causing thousands of US soldiers to lose their
    jobs so we can fit "Grants" to Israel in our defense budget?

    ive been over there to. got it. you should realize soldiers are loosing their jobs regardless support for israel. after wars the army always cuts back.
    yeah i know were still in afghan but they think because we pulled out of iraq that its time to "cut the fat" which does exist in our army but we can cut the
    fat without the massive downsizing. i think their making a mistake considering the world is beating its war drums.

    Quote Originally Posted by wmaousley View Post
    You may like these policies, and I respect that.
    no you dont. you want israel destroyed. you have made it clear.

    Quote Originally Posted by wmaousley View Post
    However in my eyes Americans are far more important to me than any other countries citizens. God bless the US, UK & KSA and fvck the rest of the
    world,
    everyone considers themselves the most important through their own eyes. any nation rightfully cares about its own citizens first but to say one nations
    citizens are more important than any other nation is like saying nobody else matters in this world.
    so yes God bless our country and its allies you mentioned except that also includes israel to you jew hater. and God bless our none allies who at the
    same time are not our enemies either. as afr as saying God bless these few countries and fvck everyone else? hhmm. do you think thats God would see it? oh wait, you believe in a different God than me so maybe. maybe through their eyes their lives matter to. maybe their ok. maybe we all like spaghetti.
    Last edited by crazy_rocks; 02-26-2012 at 11:33 AM.

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