Too much estrogen or too little?

[BBrian]

Anadrol is 100 mg a day. 50 in the morning 50 before bed. BP normally 120/80.

Wow, the first thing I'd say is stop taking Anadrol before bed. That is probably ruining your sleep altogether. You're taking a lot of compounds for your first cycle, first off, and you're taking too much Anadrol. I would have heavily advised against taking Anadrol right off the bad, but too late now. You should also be ramping up your Anadrol at this point in your cycle. It's heavily toxic and should not be run any longer than six weeks, and less for a new user. Anadrol is a blood pressure raising monster, and you're way over-doing it man. Have you only gained 8 pounds so far on this cycle? I hope I didn't read that right. Anadrol also aromatizes VERY heavily. I had to experiment with my Arimidex dosage quite a bit while taking Anadrol for 4.5 weeks on my current cycle before getting estrogen under control, and I still ended up with some bad acne, which at week 8 is finally drying up.

To be honest, and I don't mean to sound pessimistic, but this whole thing sounds like quite a mess. I know it's too late now, but you should have just stuck with test for your first cycle to understand how your body reacts to anabolics in the first place brother. I would seriously recommend halting the Anadrol now. From what I can tell, your estrogen levels crashed, spiked, and probably crashed again, leaving you in a hormonal nightmare. Any chances of getting bloodwork performed?

[Thunderforge]

Wow, the first thing I'd say is stop taking Anadrol before bed. That is probably ruining your sleep altogether. You're taking a lot of compounds for your first cycle, first off, and you're taking too much Anadrol. I would have heavily advised against taking Anadrol right off the bad, but too late now. You should also be ramping up your Anadrol at this point in your cycle. It's heavily toxic and should not be run any longer than six weeks, and less for a new user. Anadrol is a blood pressure raising monster, and you're way over-doing it man. Have you only gained 8 pounds so far on this cycle? I hope I didn't read that right. Anadrol also aromatizes VERY heavily. I had to experiment with my Arimidex dosage quite a bit while taking Anadrol for 4.5 weeks on my current cycle before getting estrogen under control, and I still ended up with some bad acne, which at week 8 is finally drying up.

To be honest, and I don't mean to sound pessimistic, but this whole thing sounds like quite a mess. I know it's too late now, but you should have just stuck with test for your first cycle to understand how your body reacts to anabolics in the first place brother. I would seriously recommend halting the Anadrol now. From what I can tell, your estrogen levels crashed, spiked, and probably crashed again, leaving you in a hormonal nightmare. Any chances of getting bloodwork performed?

Thanks BBrian, I'll stop it immediately. Yes, 8 pounds is all I've gained. It was difficult for me to really decide what I wanted to run. Certainly I've read the advice of the board members to go slower than I have. The problem is, I really am an outsider to all this. I'm seeking advice and knowledge from every source and it often conflicts. Why would I run Anadrol at 100mg/day? Well, because the profile for the compound says it's fine to do so on this very site, and that the gains are significantly better. Add in that one of the few people I actually know in real life who uses steroids recommended that dosage. I want to note that he helped me set up my cycle a DID say it was a big one for a first timer, but felt it would go well. Another example of the conflicting info, the profile here says "Since Anadrol is derived from DHT, it cant actually convert to estrogen (via the aromatase enzyme)", but you say,"Anadrol also aromatizes VERY heavily". I don't say that to be argumentative at all. After months here your posts along with Gixx and Gearbox and several others stand out to me as being very knowledgeable. I will follow your advice here. I say it only to point out that as a newcomer it's tough gathering all the info. I'd love to sit and just talk to someone.

After re reading the drugs profile here I do see that my gains should be much greater than they are.

From what I can tell, your estrogen levels crashed, spiked, and probably crashed again, leaving you in a hormonal nightmare.

Had to quote that again because the truth of it just made me laugh out loud when I read it. Then I started crying. Then I was mad as hell and depressed and filled with joy all at once.

As for bloodwork, my only option would be to try the online service and head to LabCorp which I can do Thursday.

Looks like my initiation into this may not go as well as it could have but it's all a learning process. Hopefully I'll still be able to salvage some quality muscle. Certainly I'm gaining quality knowledge. Even if it's the hard way.

Thanks very much for the help.

[BBrian]

Had to quote that again because the truth of it just made me laugh out loud when I read it. Then I started crying. Then I was mad as hell and depressed and filled with joy all at once.

This made me laugh out loud too. Luckily, it wasn't followed with any other emotions

If you've only gained 8 lbs with these compounds, something is seriously wrong. My first guess would be that you are fasting, but I know that's ridiculous. It must have something to do with severe estrogen control problems, far more severe than I realized. I ran 50mg of Anadrol 6 days per week for 4.5 weeks at the beginning of my current cycle. By the time I finished with the Anadrol, I had already gained around 24 pounds. And you are right and I am wrong, in a manner of speaking, where the subject of Anadrol and the aromatase enzyme is conerned. I'm currently on a bulking cycle with Test and Deca which began with 50mg of Anadrol, 6 days per week, for 4.5 weeks. The bloating and acne I experienced as a result of taking Anadrol was unlike anything I had ever experienced before. Here is a good quote on the subject;

"Contrary to what many bodybuilders expect of it (Anadrol), the drug can be mild in terms of side effects when no aromatizing steroids are present.

Nonetheless, when oxymetholone is used in a cycle yielding high estrogen levels, it is notorious for worsening apparently-estrogenic symptoms. This may be from its producing progestagenic symptoms which are easily confused as being estrogenic; from altering estrogen metabolism; by upregulating aromatase; or perhaps by increasing prolactin. The actual cause is not proven."

The full report can be found here: http://thinksteroids.com/steroid-profiles/anadrol/

Additionally, the steroid profiles on this site are a great place to begin, but they are also terribly outdated. Some of them still hold quite true, while others do not.