guys wanting to gain 25+lbs on cycle

[mirin_serratus]

but I know a lot of people who are recreational lifters, got massive on cycle, came off, and kept most of their gains. Some of them came off several years ago and still look way bigger than pr***********. How do you explain this?

[SMcB]

but I know a lot of people who are recreational lifters, got massive on cycle, came off, and kept most of their gains. Some of them came off several years ago and still look way bigger than pr***********. How do you explain this?

They probably weren't close to their genetic limit when they first started cycling. Either that or they aren't being honest with you and are still on something but perhaps at a lower dosage.