Im gonna run a 750mg cycle of test E for 16 weeks with 30 mgs of dbol for a month or so.
Ive ran deca with it before but it shuts my penis down and not even cialis helps.
Ive heard Tren is a good stack but does that shut down the dick like deca?
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Im gonna run a 750mg cycle of test E for 16 weeks with 30 mgs of dbol for a month or so.
Ive ran deca with it before but it shuts my penis down and not even cialis helps.
Ive heard Tren is a good stack but does that shut down the dick like deca?
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how many cycles have you done?
When you ran deca and you say it shuts the pp down, what was the cycle and dosage?
~VET~ Extraordinaire~
yes tren is a 19nor like deca.
did you use an ai while on that cycle?
If people can't tell your on steroids then your doing them wrong
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I ran 750 mg test e with around 400 mg of deca. I tried running a lower dose of Deca at about 200mgs and it still shut me down. I stopped taking deca and the effects lasted for about 8 weeks after. Ive ran about 6 cycles. Not too many. Im naturally 180. Get up to about 210 on a cycle. I was naturally about 160lb before ever running a cycle back in the days. Glad I started.
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Then this leads to gixxer question about you running an ai? Did you?
Did you run a proper pct after. this sounds like your estro was way off which causes ed for sure
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It's doubtful that using other 19-Nor compounds of comparable doses will have any less of an affect on your gonads, and I think you may be giving deca too much credit here. If you ran 400mg deca with 750mg test and you lost your libido, there was a hormonal problem that needed to be taken care of, which most likely was estrogen levels. So that brings us back to the question of what measures you were taking to control estrogen.
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I wasnt using anything except dbol, test and deca. Ive ran test and dbol without the deca and had no problems. Tried deca at low doses for 6 weeks and deca dick came back.
PCT was nolva chlomid.
~VET~ Extraordinaire~
your estro or progesterion was to high,
If people can't tell your on steroids then your doing them wrong
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So what would be a good cycle for me to run with 500mg of Test E and Dbol. 5 10 180lbs. 16 week cycle
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I never was the best at chemistry. I just ran what sounded good. Switched things up when I realized my dick didnt work after taking Deca even with the use of Cialis. Got great results on Deca though.
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You can use all the deca you want, so long as you use a consistent dose of an aromatase inhibitor while on cycle. And no matter what compounds you are using, you should be using one regardless. You need to read up on Aromasin, Arimidex, and Letrozole. I prefer Arimidex but would definitely use Aromasin as well. I'm not a fan of Letrozole personally, but Alex is and he's a very knowledgeable AAS user, so it's a matter of preference and understanding how they vary. With 500mg test and dbol, I'd say that 0.25mg of Arimidex every other day should serve you just fine. If you add 400mg of deca, you may want to increase it to 0.50mg every other day or every 3 days.
Also, seeing as you have had problems with atrophy, I would stay away from a 16 week cycle, as this will only further agitate gonadal suppression. You need to take extra care of your twins now, so stick with the 10-12 week protocol, use HCG and an AI during cycle, and research how much time needs to exist in between your last test injection and the beginning of PCT to avoid an inefficient PCT.
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Thanks for what to research. I will look into it. Id really like to use Deca and hope the AI helps.
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I'm currently running 400mg deca and 775mg of test. I take 0.5mg Arimidex every other day and everything is perfect. I'm currently on week 11 as well.Originally Posted by bermich
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what are you gonna use for PCT and when?
Productive Member
I finish my cycle with propionate only. This allows me to begin PCT 4 days after my last injection, instead of having to wait nearly two weeks as is the case with enanthate. I've also been running HCG throughout my cycle, which helps to prevent the gonads from atrophy in the first place. My PCT will consist of Nolvadex and Clomid. For your cycle, I would recommend running Nolvadex at 40mg every day weeks 1-2, then 20mg every day weeks 3-4, and Clomid at 50mg every day for two weeks then 25mg every day for 2 more weeks.
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Tren may effect you like deca yes.
ILOVE maste with test, weather bulking or cutting its great, frees up test, add a bit to gains, just overall nice
300-500mg maste ew give that a go, that DEFF wont effect your stick... not in a bad way anyway.
alot say mast only for precomp or cutting i say FUK EM, thats brolore.
I have used it myself many times (bulk and cut) and can tell you 400mg mast and 500mg teste ew was like 1g ew of test with less bloat.
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dont listin to the guy above he dosent seem to know what deca is.
Deca dosent rais the estorgen , it is prog. and if THATS out of control then Letro or anotehr AI isnt gonna fix it...
bromo or caber sure.
I mean not using an AI while using deca and other steorids that DO convert to estrogen would make it worse with the deca, but it would not fixe deca issues, MAYBE lessin them due to not having the estro issues.
estrogen IS GOOD for sex drive/libido. PROG is what is not!
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Estrogen is only good for sex drive when it is maintained at the levels with which our bodies are designed to function properly with. When estrogen levels are too high or too low, it causes adverse reactions at the libido, among a host of other problems. And deca does in fact aromatize to estrogen, roughly 20% the rate of testosterone. When used it conjunction with compounds that have a high rate of aromatization, it serves to agonize the side effects of estrogen even further, similar but not identical to the way that Anadrol does.
Ironic considering your statement "dont listin to the guy above he dosent seem to know what deca is."
Oh, found this for you....www.grammarly.com/
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Damn. Maybe Ill just run test and keep it cut and lean. I look so much better with the bulky look though.
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Where can I get Arimidex?
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Ar-r
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