gyno? oh no!

[lifthardgethard]

Hey guys,

So its my 23rd day of test e/deca...all has been going great but a few days ago I noticed a tiny lump under my left nipple...since then I feel like it has become somewhat sensitive, not a lot at all so I'm thinking maybe its all in my head. They don't hurt or anything. At what point should one consider taking something to aid in getting rid of it? Mainly I'm looking for people who have had it because I want to know how bad it is supposed to feel if it is gyno. Its not itchy or puffy or anything just feels a little weird when it rubs against my shirt but like I said may just all be in my head. So ya, anyone who has had it feel free to let me know what exactly it feels like and when is a good time to do something about it. Thank you.

[gixxerboy1]

are you taking any ai?

[EpyoN]

are you taking any ai?

is there a preferred ai? I was planning to use arimidex, btw.

[gixxerboy1]

i use adex and it works well for me. Some guys prefer aromasin

[lifthardgethard]

no I am taking no ai...I heard they diminish gains and as a result I decided to see if I was going to have any gyno problems before grabbing it...I can get it very quickly and am just wondering if I should just wait and see if this gets worse or better safe than sorry and grab it now? Also, how much do ai's diminish gains?

[Thor249]

From what I've learned that tiny lump could possibly the development of breast tissue,
I started developing a little gyno on my first cycle and the only symptom I had was that same little pea sized lump and a little sensitive.
I would start an AI immediately just to be safe.

[lifthardgethard]

From what I've learned that tiny lump could possibly the development of breast tissue,
I started developing a little gyno on my first cycle and the only symptom I had was that same little pea sized lump and a little sensitive.
I would start an AI immediately just to be safe.

yeah I'm definitely considering it...obviously its better safe than sorry so I probably will but how much do they hinder gains?

[OnTheSauce]

You should always take an ai, even if sides are not apparent

[lifthardgethard]

my friend is actually telling me he is having similar problems and he is running the same cycle just at higher doses. I think were both going to grab some ai's but once again how much do they hinder gains?

[lifthardgethard]

also, what do you guys recommend that I run with deca, I hear that nolva is not good to run with deca...can anyone knowledgeable recommend that I start taking???

[lifthardgethard]

anyone???...I apologize for asking so many times its just I want to call my guy first thing in the morning so I can grab this stuff asap!!!

[Thor249]

I don't think your gains will suffer much at a regular dose of a-dex (which is a relatively weak ai) which is about 0.25mg ED.
At least I have yet to read anything about drastic setbacks on gains from and AI.
It comes down to this, tits or a couple lbs in gains..... lol think you have your answer.
but like Patrick said you should always run an AI with any cycle.

[Awesome_Archy]

my friend is actually telling me he is having similar problems and he is running the same cycle just at higher doses. I think were both going to grab some ai's but once again how much do they hinder gains?

Are your gains really more important than you (a male) growing female breast tissue?

Never cycled before but i'd rather not have b***hT*ts

[lifthardgethard]

I don't think your gains will suffer much at a regular dose of a-dex (which is a relatively weak ai) which is about 0.25mg ED.
At least I have yet to read anything about drastic setbacks on gains from and AI.
It comes down to this, tits or a couple lbs in gains..... lol think you have your answer.
but like Patrick said you should always run an AI with any cycle.

you are absoultely right and can this be taken with test e and deca?

[Thor249]

you are absoultely right and can this be taken with test e and deca?

Yeah you can take arimidex while running both of those.

[Thor249]

You also might wanna go do some research on Deca related gyno, which is different from Test related.

[lifthardgethard]

You also might wanna go do some research on Deca related gyno, which is different from Test related.

definitely...I have been reading up on it...but the arimidex would combat the gyno from either the test e or deca?

[Thor249]

If the gyno is estrogen related (Test) then Adex should help, if it's prolactin related (Deca) then I don't think so.
I know caber and bromo are used for prolactin gyno.
I'm not a complete expert like I said, go do some research, there are plenty of threads on this forum.
That's what I've been using to get this info.

[JDBeretta]

In response to the question regarding gains being hindered, it depends what you consider "gains"... While you're on cycle, you'll retain less water, so you may feel as though you're not as big. Basically, at least for me, it hinders false gains that you'll sweat and piss away when you come off anyways. As for real gains, not so much.

[lifthardgethard]

If the gyno is estrogen related (Test) then Adex should help, if it's prolactin related (Deca) then I don't think so.
I know caber and bromo are used for prolactin gyno.
I'm not a complete expert like I said, go do some research, there are plenty of threads on this forum.
That's what I've been using to get this info.

awesome stuff thanks man will do!

[lifthardgethard]

In response to the question regarding gains being hindered, it depends what you consider "gains"... While you're on cycle, you'll retain less water, so you may feel as though you're not as big. Basically, at least for me, it hinders false gains that you'll sweat and piss away when you come off anyways. As for real gains, not so much.

thanks man that made me feel much better about this!

[lifthardgethard]

spoke to my guy today and he is going to get me some arimidex...hopefully that halps keep the gyno at bay and prevent it from gettign any worse!