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    new cycle.. ive tried everything

    ok i am new here but not new to the gym or supplements. i have competed powerlifting for 8 years i am 6'3 285lbs right around 15% bf. i just came off a test only cycle of

    600mg enanthate for week 1-3
    300mg prop week 1-3
    then 900mg enanthate week 4-9
    750mg sust week 10-12,,

    now i have a little bit of a stock pile and want to get jacked what i have on hand is

    2 bottles of enanthate 300
    2 bottles of enanthate 250
    2 bottles of sustanon 250
    200 dbol 10mg
    5 kits of norvotropin.

    what would be a good way to run all this for 12 weeks??? i dont want to hear OMG thats to much top level guys are running 1500 a week all day. i figure there is no reason ****ing around and might as well get right to the point.. this is probably my 6th cycle i want the 600 bench the 1000 squat and 750 dead and im not going to get it with a pidley 500 mg a week.. help me out

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    How many ML'S of each do you have?

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    Each bottle is 10ml. and the novatropin is 10x10iu vials per kit

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    Never seen anyone run a cycle like that.You may want to read beginners cycles it will give you a idea on how to construct a cycle.

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    you cycle what you have right??? thats what i have always done.. test is test is test is test..

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    Well, take it for what it's worth. I would only count on having 50ml's and go from there. How one would mix the sus and e i'm not really sure as i've never done it. What i do know though is i could do 4cc's EW for 12 weeks. 50mgs of d-bol for first 40 days.
    Do you have a PCT in mind? HCG? An AI?

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    right on.. yeah i have all the nolva clomid and such.. now what about the gh.. just run that at 5 iu's till its gone with everything else or should i wait till closer to the end of the cycle

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    Well, you have an unconventional combination of gear there, but it's definitely doable. I would start with sustanon eod due to the fact that it contains short esters in it. This will work as a moderate frontload and help get the test kicking in while you use the dbol for a true frontload at 30-50mg per day. At week four I would start injecting the enanthate alone until the very end, then wait two weeks and begin PCT. I'm not going to bother recommending a mg dose for each test compound, it sounds like you have that under control. But I would recommend tapering the enanthate down during the last two weeks (assuming you're going to be injecting a LOT) so that your PCT will be effective at the very beginning. Keep in mind that if you're injecting 1000mg of enanthate, for example, per week, and splitting that up into two shots per week, 10.5 days after your final injection, you'll probably have somewhere around 350-450 mg of enanthate left in you at that first half life, and this is far too much for PCT to be effective. It's my understanding that you need around a maximum of 100-150mg left in your system before the suppression signal ceases to exist from the injected test.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bwilly View Post
    right on.. yeah i have all the nolva clomid and such.. now what about the gh.. just run that at 5 iu's till its gone with everything else or should i wait till closer to the end of the cycle
    Start the gh as soon as possible.

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    *UPDATE* 4 weeks in or so.. done with the sustanon now moving on to enanthat for the final 8.. did 50mg of dbol a day 1000mg of sustanon a week and 5iu of hgh a day.. weight is up to 304 was able to hit 595 on the bench ( something about putting on the cookies frakin kills me) i feel better than ever.. but i have a question.. i am not going to have the short ester from the sust now for the everyday pump.. while running around a 1000 mgs of enanthate a week do you think 1 cc of suspesion on workout days would be ok to give that littl eboost????? help me out here

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    If you hit a 600 lb raw bench I better see it on powerliftingwatch.com. good luck and sorry not much help on your question.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bwilly View Post
    *UPDATE* 4 weeks in or so.. done with the sustanon now moving on to enanthat for the final 8.. did 50mg of dbol a day 1000mg of sustanon a week and 5iu of hgh a day.. weight is up to 304 was able to hit 595 on the bench ( something about putting on the cookies frakin kills me) i feel better than ever.. but i have a question.. i am not going to have the short ester from the sust now for the everyday pump.. while running around a 1000 mgs of enanthate a week do you think 1 cc of suspesion on workout days would be ok to give that littl eboost????? help me out here
    Yes, absolutely it will. Inject 50-100mg 3-6 hours prior to working out, and you'll really feel the difference.

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    cebby.. you frequent there often.. you could have seen me on there a few years back with nick winters when i was deadlifting in bunny slippers hahaha.. and thanks brian

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    I used to a lot more than I do now bwilly. I was into raw lifting for a while pretty seriously. Good luck man and keep this updated

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