i start on day 1

and i wouldnt start on 10mg ed, depending on how its dosed either 12.5mg eod or if its liquid then start on 5-6 mg ed

if estrogen crashes then this brings its own problems

you dont need caber at hand unless you run 19nors and even then you shouldnt need it if you regulate estrogen to begin with

run tamox/clomid

4 weeks at week 1,2,3,4 tamox 40/40/20/20 and clomid 50/50/25/25 or even 100mg the first week of clomid if you like