didn't respond well to test, what should I try?

[Capebuffalo]

mine is similar, 100g oats, 1-2 scoop myofusion (it shit i know but nearly 3 tubs to use up), 5-10 egg whites, couple yolks, bananna, ice and 400ml water all blended up, it actually pretty damn tasty

Banana I like it. Some times I just fill a tumbler with liquid egg whites and drink it. I swear it taste like vanilla ice cream. Crazy. Maybe.

[Skyrinegt]

If you gained a lot of fat and water you weren't eating well and your diet isn't in check, this would also mean your probably not training proper either, get those sorted and watch the gains

[DanB]

Banana I like it. Some times I just fill a tumbler with liquid egg whites and drink it. I swear it taste like vanilla ice cream. Crazy. Maybe.

yeah it really helps the flavour and they dirt cheap too

i dont mind drinking egg whites at all, no taste off them for me and as you already said, it 100 times easier then trying to eat them,

100g oat made into porridge and 10 scrambled egg would be hard to force down day in and day out

[mirin_serratus]

Says the guy that says he is a poor responder to testosterone? Give me a break. We've all accomplished what you haven't. Why? Because we know how to eat. I was 5'10" 205lbs lean before I started cycling. How did I get there? I ate quality whole foods and didn't convince myself that protein shakes and peanut butter Kelly sandwiches could substitute for real wholesome food. But why even ask? You seem to think you have it figured out....

Everyone here for the most part has explained your problem and you wont accept it. There is no magic pill or injection that will make you big. Shitty food (especially simple carb like you eat) lead to fat deposits. You gained fat due to insulin spikes driven by simple carb ingestion.

Not trying to be a dick here, but why even ask if you won't accept the answers you are given. 10 grams of white bread is not the same nutritionally as 10 grams of sweet potatoes. Your diet is nutritionally lacking. That is why you aren't gaining. I lived on oats, eggs, lean meats, and spinach salads. Eat things your great grandmother would recognize. Whole foods. Not proceeded garbage you by in a box and nuke for 2 minutes. Not protein shakes. If you really insist in peanut butter try the natural kind on whole wheat bread.

Cliff notes, it really is your diet.

jesus i'm not gonna even try to argue anymore do you guys even know how nutrition works? so bread is not real food? peanut butter is not real food? bread and rice are not complex carbs? 10 grams of carbs from bread isn't the same as 10 grams of carbs from sweet potatoes? please go

[DanB]

you trying to preach to people when you didnt gain anything on cycle? ok mabey you should be the expert and we learn from you

best of luck with that

[Noles12]

jesus i'm not gonna even try to argue anymore do you guys even know how nutrition works? so bread is not real food? peanut butter is not real food? bread and rice are not complex carbs? 10 grams of carbs from bread isn't the same as 10 grams of carbs from sweet potatoes? please go

Do you understand the difference between complex carbs and simple carbs? You tal about how we dont know anything yet yo are the one that can't get bigger

[mirin_serratus]

Do you understand the difference between complex carbs and simple carbs? You tal about how we dont know anything yet yo are the one that can't get bigger

yes i do thats why i'm annoyed when people keep telling me to eat complex carbs when i'm already eating complex carbs. it has no relevance to what i'm trying to ask

[swm1972]

yes i do thats why i'm annoyed when people keep telling me to eat complex carbs when i'm already eating complex carbs. it has no relevance to what i'm trying to ask

Specifically what are you eating that is a complex carbohydrate. We eat bland tasting shit like steel cut oatmeal because it tastes good. No really. You eat peanut butter and jelly sandwiches. white bread, that is not a complex carb. White bread and similar products are full of simple carbs that convert to sugar in your blood stream causing an insulin spike. This leads to fat deposits being retained because that is what insulin does. Even with a quality diet bodybuilders that use insulin post workout see fat deposits accumulating. Jelly? You think you can eat sugar laden products and a gram of carbs is a gram of carbs. Maybe it works that way in general populationville, but not in the world we live in. You have the same mindset as the majority of the population. The majority are overweight and flabby. Is that purely coincidental or is it possible we might be onto something you haven't figured out yet.

[Capebuffalo]

mine is similar, 100g oats, 1-2 scoop myofusion (it shit i know but nearly 3 tubs to use up), 5-10 egg whites, couple yolks, bananna, ice and 400ml water all blended up, it actually pretty damn tasty

Dan. Added bannana today. Thought I was drinking a piña colada. Blueberry a tomorrow

[Capebuffalo]

Do you understand the difference between complex carbs and simple carbs? You tal about how we dont know anything yet yo are the one that can't get bigger

Noles cut the kid a break. He actually thinks grape jelly is a fruit group.

[Ronnie Rowland]

Change sources and then do an 8 week cycle consisting of 1500 mgs of test-e or test-c weekly and give us an update! If you still do not make gains you are going to need an oral like d-bol thrown into the mix. Next step would be to add tren!

[jpowell]

Noles cut the kid a break. He actually thinks grape jelly is a fruit group.

Grape jelly is not a fruit? Damnnn it bro...

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[swm1972]

Noles cut the kid a break. He actually thinks grape jelly is a fruit group.

Lmao!

[tboney]

Change sources and then do an 8 week cycle consisting of 1500 mgs of test-e or test-c weekly and give us an update in a PM. If you still do not make gains you are going to need an oral like d-bol thrown into the mix. Next step would be to add tren!

Be careful man... he just might take your advice!

[mirin_serratus]

Noles cut the kid a break. He actually thinks grape jelly is a fruit group.

lol see what i mean, i've never eaten jelly in my life, never in my post did i say i eat jelly, maybe you can read first then make smartass jokes about me

[< <Samson> >]

Change sources and then do an 8 week cycle consisting of 1500 mgs of test-e or test-c weekly and give us an update in a PM. If you still do not make gains you are going to need an oral like d-bol thrown into the mix. Next step would be to add tren!

I so thought you were being serious. . .

[kelkel]

Can we get back to the protein drink recipies please? I too, am still trying to gain weight for my old ars.

[gymsoldier]

For sure, I love blending shit up since it's just so much easier to drink/eat.

Eh did you ever try Derek Poundstone's "Chicken Shake".

[Capebuffalo]

Eh did you ever try Derek Poundstone's "Chicken Shake".

Just because you can blend it doesnt mean you need to. Sounds terrible

[Jerseystepup]

All i had to do was look at his diet, then i stopped reading on... so this may have been said already... IDK man, if your gaining FAT, your diet isn't up to par. Bulking doesn't mean eat whatever, whenever to just get calories in... Bulking is eating more so what you eat when you cut times 5 (just trying to put it in perspective) 5,000 calories of mcdonals is WAY difft than 5,000 clean calories.. Ive never heard of some people responding to test and others not.. Test is a hormone that we all have in our bodies, and something we all need to maintain a positive state of well being... i think the test is far from the issue here.

[Brohim]

Can we get back to the protein drink recipies please? I too, am still trying to gain weight for my old ars.

Kel you are huge bro why are you trying to gain weight?

OP says to gain weight add in some P Sammies and bread rolls and you will be gtg. No jelly though

[< <Samson> >]

Eh did you ever try Derek Poundstone's "Chicken Shake".

Haven't seen it. . . . But I am pretty sure I had something similar. I been drinking chicken and brown rice shakes for a bit now. . . .Mmmmm, tasty.

[kelkel]

Always trying for a couple more as long as it's LBM. Been a struggle all my life to gain weight. One of the best things I ever did when I started out was to train in a gym full of powerlifters. Started around 145 now hold steady for years around 220 but gaining has always been my nemesis.

[eastcoast112]

judging from his screen name.... im going to say...

yall roasting in a roll bread.

[mirin_serratus]

judging from his screen name.... im going to say...

yall roasting in a roll bread.

lol u aware... but thread is srs not roll bread here (disregard roll bread in diet)

[FireGuy]

People tried warning you prior to starting this cycle that your diet was going to keep you from getting the results you were looking for. Your reply "LMAO, wanna bet?"

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...s-s-serratuses

[HitIt]

People tried warning you prior to starting this cycle that your diet was going to keep you from getting the results you were looking for. Your reply "LMAO, wanna bet?"

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...s-s-serratuses

ha ha!

[Noles12]

Originally Posted by gearbox
you will not see a huge weight gain

lmao you wanna bet?

lmao srs brah

[Ronnie Rowland]

I so thought you were being serious. . .

I am being serious. I have seen a few people not respond to low doses of test such as 500mgs weekly. Everyone reacts differently to various drugs! For example, some get gyno taking as little as 200 mgs of test per week while others can take 2 grams per week and never show the first sign of gyno.

My gut reaction is that he's bought some watered down test but it's possible that he may just not be responding to 500 mgs weekly. And even if his diet was off like FireGuy suggested (AND I THINK FIREGUY IS RIGHT!) he still should have got considerably harder, stronger and gained some water weight with it being his first cycle given he responds to test like most of us . The culprit is either one or both of the variables I have mentioned. He will have to find out for himself!