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    Quote Originally Posted by thegodfather View Post
    If someone doesn't see the 1940s situation in Israel as being analagous to Native American Indians coming to your town and evicting you and all of your neighbors because they lived there at one time centuries ago, then there is no point in arguing with that person.

    Palestinians occupied the land most recently, and therefore they should be able to live there as citizens. Not the second class citizens that they are under the apartheid Israeli regime, where food, water, and medical care are used as weapons against 2 million innocent people. Causing 2 million people to suffer for the crimes of MAYBE a few THOUSAND terrorists will never be justified in my eyes, all politics aside.

    What we have now is a big f**ing mess, and in my PERSONAL opinion the only solution would be a 2 state solution, and I use the word solution very hesitantly.
    This.

    I give you my measly reps, may the force and reps guide you. lulz

    But on more serious note, i believe the issue at hand that is consistently being overlooked is the fact that israel's population is no way in a consensus that stipulates they want "a jewish country".

    Rather a significant amount of jews are opposed to the creationism of a single jewish country (specifically orthodox and many other well known sects), and many of the adherents are aware that whatever destruction and potential threats that they currently and may face in the future is to the bringing of their own demise.

    Alot of jews in the world are ashamed to be called "israeli", such as the huge movement on the net, google jews against zionism, which is against the discrimintion of other entities for the satisifcation of zionist's desires'.

    In fact, i'd extend the notion and postulate that the jews in US who were surveyed, testified that the creation of a jewish israel and their horrible genocidal crimes in the country has led to an increase of further racist attacks against them, leaving them to be further aliented in modern society.

    So as a result, many of the jews, specifically orthodox, and some ashkanzi would like to reach a settlement agreement with the other side, and for once live in peace righteously.

    On the otherhand, the palestinians are in no way united whatsoever. The goldstone report which was to conduct a report on israel's war crimes was stopped personally by the provincial leader of west bank province, who is in fact a palestinan and clearly has some large financial incentives with israeli neo cons.

    The optimal resolution would be that the two entities be incorporated into a single unified region, probably called israesltine. It is more than obvious that there would be severe discourse among the population, but that is what the transition stage meant for. Eventually after a generation or two, I'm sure after cross-marriages and the development of a morphed dialect of hebrew and arabic languages, the next generations would be living side by side in a harmonial and equilibrium state.
    Last edited by Persistence2012; 06-30-2012 at 01:31 PM.

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