Quote Originally Posted by BruceBanner View Post
thanks for that, good advice.

What about legal supplements, like Tribulus etc, can you think of anything that might assist in recovery that can be used in an almost permanent solution kinda way?
I mean I even cycle caffeine so that i use it on the days i clean and not on the days that i don't, so that I actually feel that kick and buzz, otherwise I have found to get very little 'lift' if i have a coffee everyday etc.

Basically the message i'm getting is this;

1) my natural test might be low, go see doctor. Yes
2) steroids, even ultra low dosages, aren't safe to be taken on a permanent basis. Not true, perfectly save if used correctly but low dose is not the answer. Being educated is.
3) if my test levels come back normal then what? If your doctor puts you on TRT your levels will come back to normal but it's TRT for life.

Have you any advice for someone like me (other than go see doc for test levels) that needs 'assistance' for doing very physical work from a supplemental perspective?

I recall when getting very lean (back in the day) I did ECA stack. I sure did feel like the energizer bunny when doing that! But i'm looking for something that is geared more towards helping my skeletal muscular system recovery than stimulant for the brain.
I have stripped my workouts back as much as i possibly can now, hence why i am looking into roids and supplements for assistance.
I have never heard any real personal use of people using supplements or things like Tribulus and having good results but you can do some more reading of natural boosters (NOT GNC test boosters and such) and get blood work done again to see if it has risen and how you feel. Doctors should first also check your thyroids to see if anything is causing a problem and its not just natural low test due to age or??? If it is natural then no other choice than TRT.