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[VASCULAR VINCE]

when judges tell compeitors...they placed lower from holding some water...is this true??? or false????

[VASCULAR VINCE]

best time to cut off fluids... before going on stage?????

[VASCULAR VINCE]

why is 3 day carb load...goingto into a show... so popular???? is it wrong????

[VASCULAR VINCE]

best diurectic to use????

[VASCULAR VINCE]

should anti-es..like letro..be used once test is dropped??? if so why???? what the need for them???

[VASCULAR VINCE]

pros..n...cons..of carbing up hard precontest .verses high sodium and water???

[VASCULAR VINCE]

why not taper water..for a few days..precontest ???

[Ronnie Rowland]

pros..n...cons..of carbing up hard precontest .verses high sodium and water???The body’s water hierarchy

1) The most important place for water storage is in the blood and vascular system. Without it you would die.
2) The second one is muscle tissue. Water is necessary within all muscles to support life.
3) The least of importance for water storage is the subcutaneous area underneath the skin. This is the area you want to try and eliminate as much as possible the day of a contest.

The secret to controlling subcutaneous water has to do with controlling the hormone aldosterone through salt and water intake. Salt intake should never be reduced as one approaches a show. When salt is decreased it increases aldosterone levels (which increase water retention because the kidneys have to reabsorb both water and sodium back into circulation.) And when you reduce salt, it lowers blood pressure, which means that plasma water has been pushed out of the vascular system which results in catabolism and flat muscles. So instead of now having water in your blood vessels making you look full, hard, and vascular, it will be in the subcutaneous areas making you appear softer and preventing you from being able to get a pump because once the salt content is reduced in muscles so is water and muscles are largely composed of water! Sodium will not cause water retention when carbs are kept under control and water is kept high. The high water intake helps your body excrete any extra sodium and aldosterone levels will be controlled by high salt and water intake. Salt is your friend, not enemy pre-contest. On Friday or night before a Saturday show, you stop drinking water. The body will continue to excrete water a normal rate throughout the entire night and following morning. This causes a decrease in blood volume and muscle volume water. Now think back at the body’s water hierarchy and remember that as a survival response, your body lets go of water from the areas of least importance first as a survival instinct. This means subcutaneous water is pumped into muscles and blood resulting in amazing vascularity, thin skin and full muscle bellies when you hit the stage![B

NOTE: It's best to keep salt moderately high by salting your egg whites generously for breakfast each morning throughout the entire contest prep . On friday morning before a saturday show you would want to skip salting your eggs (you will be adding more whole eggs into your diet at this point to increase fats and help fill out) then add back the salt early saturday morning before pre-judging. By skipping the salt on your eggs friday morning it helps to ensure that you remove all the subcutaneous water underneath your skin. Expect to be very thirsty after reintroducing some salt saturday morning before pre-judging and don't confuse that with becoming dehydrated because at this juncture the two are not one in the same!!! [/B] [/B]

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[Ronnie Rowland]

best diurectic to use???? Diurectics are not needed! But if I was going to ever recommend a diurectic it would be only a half a tab of dyazide the night before a the show when you cut off water because it works fast and at that dosage it would not have time to severely block aldosterone levels or lower blood pressure in excess-hence avoiding the act of destroy pump and vascularity to a large degree in some cases . I would not use spirolactone as it needs to be used about 7 days to become most effective and it's known to cause one to go flat. I would not use aldactone because it takes about 3 days to become effective and it also causes you to go flat . Lasix is the worst of all.

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[Ronnie Rowland]

why is 3 day carb load...going into a show... so popular???? is it wrong????IMO there is no ryme or reason to do a traditional carb up. It doesn't work most of the time because you spill over and then try and correct the problem taking diuretics, which usually makes matters even worse. Your body can only hold around 350 grams of glucose in the muscles and the rest will go to the liver and some in the blood stream. No one can expect to take in two-three few thousand grams of carbs over a 3 day period and not spill over. For every gram of glucose you take in your body will need around 2.5 grams of water to help with the storage of it. Once your muscles are completely saturated the extra carbs cause you to spill over.


As stated earlier, after carbing up earlier in the week you need to lower your carbs/calories back to where they were prior to the Tuesday carb load and then do a small carbohydrate load again Friday night before a show and some on Saturday morning of the show, and after prejudging but again not to any great degree. Taking in a lot of carbs during this time would be counterproductive and are simple not necessary, especially when essential fat intake is increased.

You need to lower the carbs mainly to dry out and then raise them little by little so as not to over spill. Yes, you could eat moee carbs and come in a little fuller, but not enough to matter and if they spill over all that hard work just goes right down the drain. Therefore, it's best to do a large carb along with a small fat load on Tuesday before a Saturday show then put them back on their normal diet (low carbs, moderate fats and high protein) on Wednesday along with plenty of salt and water. By keeping water and salt high the water retention leaves between Thursday and Friday morning. You also have the option of doing a moderate carb load on both Tuesday and Wednesday and some do best carbin gup hard on just wednesday. Then late Friday night through Saturday morning they begin a fairly high fat load with foods such as hamburgers without cheese and peanut butter on Ezekiel bread while utilizing only a low carb load on Friday night and Sat morning to prevent spilling over with excess glycogen. Fats help pull glycogen into the muscle-hence less carbs are needed to fill out the muscles and increase one’s vascularity. Fats do not cause one to over spill like carbs and it will be so close to the competition that the extra calories from the fat load won’t make you gain any body fat and they will provide you with sustained energy to pose on stage. You never need three or more days to carb up right before a show! It takes only hours, not days, to fill out if you carb up hard earlier in the week on Tuesday- (usually). After the big carb load on Tuesday competitors will notice that water begins to leave from underneath the skin after a couple of days while the muscle remains hard due to the high water and sodium intake. All weight training and cardio is stopped after carbing up in order to prevent glycogen from being used at a rapid pace. Most of your fullness will remain until the end of the week and then you put the finishing touch on it Friday night and Saturday morning without the risk of spilling over. I want to drive this point home!


NOTE: The advantage of carbing up earlier in the week is that it allows for adjustments to be made if you over spill. Those who carb up 2-3 days prior to their show and over spill do not have time to make any corrections.

The best way to lean out for a show involves low carbs, moderate fats and high protein. The fats help maintain the proper body weight without causing all the fuctuations in water weight that carbs do and this allows one to stay on top of their condition. Fatsd also hlep maintain your carb load for the show. If calories get too low afer the carb losd you will flatten out. You should not lose muscle size while using a lower carb approach given you take in enough calories through protein and essential dietary fats. Most people don't realize that your body needs a certain amount of dietary fats to grow, hold on to muscle, for central nervous system function and sleep. Fats are a superior energy than carbs because they burn slower and are more filling.

I usually see my clients on the day before they carb up on Tuesday's. At this time they are always dry, hard and depleted. During the Tuesday carb up phase before as Saturday show, they will comment on how full and vascular they are around 10 hours after they begin carb loading hard. By the next morning they always spill over which is to be expected. This proves that if you try and carb up hard the day or days before the show you will spill over with glycogen and gather tons of subcutaneous water you won’t have time to get rid of. After a good carb load on Tuesday you will need a couple of days to normalize and see your abdominals get back in top condition. I always tell people this up front so they don’t freak out. And The only way you chance going flat using this protocol is cutting out all sodium1-2 days out, cutting off water too early and/or using diuretics.

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[Ronnie Rowland]

why is 3 day carb load...goingto into a show... so popular???? They mistakenly think tons of carbs is what fills you out and make you look vascular when it actually water and salt. is it wrong???? It's not wise unless you want to chance spilling over. Best to carb up earlier in the week so that adjustments can me made if need be. Those who do a massive carb load late in the week usually spill over and there's no fixing that!

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[Ronnie Rowland]

when judges tell compeitors...they placed lower from holding some water...is this true??? or false???? Sometimes it is true due to a poor pre-contest prep. I think most of the time the judges don't want to hurt peoples feelings (especially females) by telling them they are still carrying body fat knowing they will become offended and argumentative after all the effort they put into dieting down for the show-hence one reason so many people sadly started using diurectics!

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