I've read that Tren, Anadrol, Halotestin, etc. are great for strength gains. What makes one steroid more efficient at strength gains than another?
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I've read that Tren, Anadrol, Halotestin, etc. are great for strength gains. What makes one steroid more efficient at strength gains than another?
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well alot of those are notorious for very bad sides. Most people will tell you that test is the king of AAS. It should definitely be the one and only AAS in a first cycle. Im not sure of the science of the androgenic/anabolic ratings, but im sure it has something to do with how the chemical interacts with insulin and all the other chemicals in your body. Its really all about how efficiently your body can metabolize the food that you put in it when you are on AAS.
In other words your diet is more important than how "strong" a steroid is. Food is the mortar and AAS are the bricks, you cant build a house without both (AAS is naturally circulating as test etc. so dont flame me for that comment).
Last edited by castiron; 07-05-2012 at 06:43 PM.
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Kudos on the response. Well worded. I figured that maybe the more androgenic steroids were associated with being more potent for strength gains given that tren and halo are highly androgenic.
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I think OP is asking for a "respond now" type of aas. If so, he has mentioned some of the right compounds regardless of diet. IE: I can be fat as hell and eat 30mgs of halo before a contest and be a pissed off mother. D-bol, strong yes, but it takes too long to get the desired effects. Tren? Yeah, but the same effects and takes a few days. As for longevity, i say a good test cycle is supreme. I'm 43 years old and 600mgs of test still does me right...Originally Posted by castiron
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More readorion in the steroid it is a basic compound that can also be found to enlarge your penis and to increase pleasure of an orgasm.
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Spammer. Get off here or i'll take care of it myself.
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Diet and nutrition - personally my favourite.
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Being around drug-tested athletes my whole 'career' I should be the one to know this, and I maintain that drug-tested athletes (that still use) would be the best ones to ask..... far better than non-tested athletes in fact, but no one's talking. I've not known one tested user that admits to using for obvious reasons, and most users I know couldn't squat their way out of a wet paper bag. I was a (clean) tested athlete for years, so I can't comment like some could. However, since retiring (and leaving the 'testing pool'), I've tried a couple compounds, and so far, pound for pound, mg for mg, I like anavar. I've only tried anavar, winstrol, and test prop so far. I'm only into my first injectable cycle 15 days now, but so far the results have been underwhelming. Perhaps I expected too much? but what I can say is that after 15 days my first anavar cycle was doing more that I could see and feel. I think it is a very underrated drug for strength, and I can see the price being a big issue, but personally I will always pay more for exactly what I want than seek out deals on stuff I feel is a compromise.
Maybe this stuff I'm on will kick hard this week and I'll eat my words, but I chose prop because I could see quicker results and so far like I said, its been underwhelming. Possibly some strength, possibly a bit of size (I'm eating a ton, I should have gained 8lbs by now), definitely more aggression and 'test', though not a lot more.
The rumors I've heard from tested circles is that test suspension is pure awesome - instant strength. I've seen complete idiots make some serious strength gains on D-bol too. I know a LOT of guys on various forms of test, but few are strong. I would have thought to see more 2 - 2 1/2 plate benches from the little ones and more 3-plate benches from the over 200 crowd, but no. I'm HOPING mine does for me what you guys say it will.
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With you St. Pete, Halo was a shocker to me. My strength gains have slowed down over time, Halo made a big difference. Although im training as a bodybuilder not a strong man.
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A50's hands down for me!!! At the same time, I can feel the pain in my lower back just thinking about them.lol
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The gains are second to none. But it sucks that they are only around for a day or two depending on dosage. I have about 500 tabs in my closet just waiting....haha. Have you ever tried prop/npp/halo?
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No...Ive wanted to try NPP for a while now. Im coming off my Test, Tren , Winny and was a idiot and did Methylated Tren (Incredible stuff but nasty on the kidneys). Hitting Test, Masteron, Primo and Proviron this next go round, in two weeks. Ive been doing the slingshot cycling method for a year now. Want to cut down a bit...How did the Prop/Npp/halo work for you?
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Id have to say Winstrol bar far from my experience. I can let you know anout Var though in about a week.
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haha...That's some serious injections. Is your test E or A? I'm thinking short ester due to the fact you added primo.
I ran prop and npp at 150mgs each EOD and was stupid strong. Added halo in my last 3 weeks and i think i was the Hulk! No shit dude. Halo is the ****in shit. I love the stuff!!
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Winstrol gets me aggressive as well. Var doesnt come close interms of aggressiveness for me as winstrol does.
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I keep a longer ester Test (Test E) being im on year around. So use that as my base and add shorter ester compounds to it. Yah im going to be a pin cushion, both my primo and mast are suspended at 100mgs/mL. Im running 500mgs/weekly of Mast and 800mgs/weekly Primo.... I agree with you on the Halo, was retarded. And the fact they are cheap is even better!haha...That's some serious injections. Is your test E or A? I'm thinking short ester due to the fact you added primo.
I ran prop and npp at 150mgs each EOD and was stupid strong. Added halo in my last 3 weeks and i think i was the Hulk! No shit dude. Halo is the ****in shit. I love the stuff!!
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Tren Suspension.
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hahaha...And what good would come from that?
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For me Test A/Tren A/Masteron P/Tbol. With 350 mg NPP in there for the joints. Over the course of 8 weeks it is by far the best cycle for both strength and look. HOWEVER, I use the STS too and with all those short, strong esters, the way your strength falls on it's face is like having a rug jerked out from under you!! Still, the meteoric rise is worth it anyway. Next time I'll add in 300-400 mg Test E just to keep from being pushed from the rocket!!! LOL!
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A very sore ass, of course....... lol.
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Anavar is very underrated, especially on this forum. I have tried almost every different type of AAS out there and Anavar to me has the best side effects to benefits ratio out of all of them. As for the test, Its only been 15 days, it probably hasnt even kicked in yet.
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I got the strongest while on Test/Tren/HGH. I'm 52 and this was the first time I benched over 400. I didn't like the it destroyed my sex life.
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If that's your only problem, add in some masteron and Proviron and you will become the "Human Jackhammer". That's my favorite cycle, but I've actually missed/postponed workouts and meals due to hyperactive libido. Distracting as hell really...Also had a bit different kind of erectile disorder...
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Thanks for the feedback. I'll definitely try that combo.
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