Shorter mild cycle = less or no need for HCG?

[Razor]

I have nothing against that idea - but it isn't essential. It is a good application in that it gives the testes a jolt of synthetic gonadotropins to get them going again. Once they're rolling producing testosterone, you remove the HCG and throw the nolva in. Now the Nolva does its job of stimulating the pituitary to release natural gonadotropin, thus keeping the testes going. This is typically what I reccomend but usually only for long cycles or for those who get shut down very hard and have a lot of difficulty bouncing back. It doesn't hurt to do it, but I like to avoid HCG if I can. It's your call.

So do you think torem or evista should be run with nolvadex for pct? Or just run nolva by itself?

[Atomini]

So do you think torem or evista should be run with nolvadex for pct? Or just run nolva by itself?

I think that Nolva is efficient enough on its own. The only other thing I would reccomend is a low dose of an AI, preferrably aromasin, in order to create a feedback loop whereby the body notices diminished estrogen and therefore will send signals out to being producing more testosterone.

Like i've said a few times already though, if you ARE the type that is very sensitive to shutdown and has a very difficult time restoring your endogenous hormones - HCG will be required with the nolva (and aromasin will have to be thrown in as well, because HCG increases aromatase activity in the body).