How I see recreational using of AAS, in chart form!!

[thex95]

thex95, I think youre right about yourself, you should not do aas. At 20-30% bf you dont even train recreational. You say your friends are getting soft, what do you call 20 plus % bf, lol... Not to be harshe but your clearly not dedicated enough to even think about aas, let alone do it. Hit the nutrition/workout sections and get some info there, that will get you going in the right direction. You say you are not happy with how you look, then change it, you are way off from needing aas to improve. I guarantee you you can genetically hold WAY more muscle than you have. I recomend cutting to atleast 12%bf and then doing a natural clean bulk from there, I tend to take isssue with the generalization of"genetic limit", as I think most people have no idea where that is for themselves, and use that term as an excuse for their subpar habits . Diet/training/rest/supplimentation/ etc can be tweaked changed etc to continue to grow and change well beyond what 99% of peope(yes myself incuded) consider to be there genetic max. In my opinion anything short of being hooked up to monitors for every possible reading and monitoring by the best docs in the world in all said fields for years of research is just a guess as to if your it the elusive genetic max plateau. Good luck man, do some reading here and you should start learning how to move forward and make some real progress, the biggest thing is actaully geting of your ass and doing it, day in and day out

LOL WHAT!?! Where are you getting these stats from man? I am currently hovering around 11-12% bf and working on a lean bulk. Heres my most recent pic take a look for yourself.

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...cs)&highlight=

[BlueWaffle21]

LOL WHAT!?! Where are you getting these stats from man? I am currently hovering around 11-12% bf and working on a lean bulk. Heres my most recent pic take a look for yourself.

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...cs)&highlight=

He confused you with Test Pilot!!

[thex95]

He confused you with Test Pilot!!

hahahaha frick!

[JAB1]

hahahaha frick!

My appologies thex95, yeah I definately confused you with testpilot... My bad. Youre pics look great man good work

[Test pilot]

He confused you with Test Pilot!!

True story - but that's why I classed myself as "recreational". And I stand by the original concept that there is a point even if you aren't a serious athlete. Steroids are no more harmful and at least as much fun as any other recreational drug, alcohol included. And I am happier with the way I look after each cycle. For me, that's more "the point" than any stats.
I am jealous of you guys with the sub-12% bf, though...

[Judah]

True story - but that's why I classed myself as "recreational". And I stand by the original concept that there is a point even if you aren't a serious athlete. Steroids are no more harmful and at least as much fun as any other recreational drug, alcohol included. And I am happier with the way I look after each cycle. For me, that's more "the point" than any stats.
I am jealous of you guys with the sub-12% bf, though...

I know every other member on here has basically dismissed your posts because you a poster child of exactly how not to run gear lol. That being said, despite the manner in which you did gear that makes most of our ass-holes itch, I really appreciate you no nonsense opinion that is based on real/personal experience.