newbie looking for clarification...

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let me start by saying i have read alot in the Newbie reference thread and it's been great, but still leaves me confused on a few things.

let me start with this, i am 28yo 5'10" 175lb...i've been an on/off type of workout guy and recently have decided to take things to the next level. mostly, i usually exercise to lean out and get toned when i put on a few extra pounds. mostly cardio, w/ less weight/more reps type of workouts. i have recently joined a local gym where i have more weights and options available to me, and i have more time now to spend at the gym. so i want to start increasing weight & bulking up since i never really tried to do so in the past. exercising for me has always been to lose the gut, lol. plus, i am a smaller guy and would like to add some significant size/mass.

i was going to start Letro 2 weeks before going on cycle, as suggested on this site. so, if i'm using Letro & TEST on my first cycle, do i need to take any other precautions to prevent Gyno and/or sex drive supression?? from what i understand, that should be all i need, but i'm not 100% certain. it seems if i use Letro consistantly, i should not need any other type of SERM or AI. if i experience signs of gyno, i can just increase Letro amounts administered to reverse them??

i was planning on running my first cycle just with TEST, but have read on here that Dbol at the begginning of the cycle helps jump start mass gain....what would u guy suggest i do??

[Capebuffalo]

What is your training experience. You say off and on. What does that mean exactly? Are you training now and if so for how long continuously?

[JWP806]

If you haven't committed to seriously training for a significant amount of time, what makes you think you are ready to commit to steroids?

You wont keep your gains if you continue to do the on/off type training you have been doing.

[JohnnnyBlazzze]

If you just recently joined your local gym I would start off by getting your diet tweaked out and develop a solid training routine. Try to make a few natural gains through hard work and eating right first. That's what I would do IMO for starters.

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i've gone through 3 bouts of P90x in the past 2 years, along with some free weight lifting here and there, but i never have had sufficient weights available to me to really LIFT and put on size consistantly. i also run occasionally, but not enought to say i'm a "runner". i've been training & dieting consistantly now for the past month & half, again, for the purpose of leaning out and getting my body fat % down. i plan to continue my current exercise regimen to improve my conditioning and stamina, but would like to go on cycle by the end of september. for now, i'm trying to educate myself on AAS, set cycle a plan, obtain my gear, and go to it!!

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i have been dieting for almost a month now....high protien, high fiber, low fat, low carb. also taking a daily multivitamins. i was up to 184lb as of recently, so i've dropped 9lb in a little over 3 weeks.

i'm not trying to start cycling tomorrow, i understand i need to tweak myself before administration. this is why i'm asking now so i can prep myself properly.

[Capebuffalo]

If you go to the gym regularly and eat more of the right foods you won't need aas for quiet a while. You have to trust me on this. You dont have a structural base at this point. You will wind up injured. Your tendons and ligament will not be able to handle the increased weight load put on them from the aas.

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i know alot of peple who have done that, and after not getting bigger, they go to gear. i've told people i want to get big, they tell me i need to cycle. which is why i'm here....didn't expect the advice i'd get on a steroid website would be to not use steroids. that's kind of ironic....however, i would still appreciate if someone could answer my questions.

[BlueWaffle21]

There is no magic way to gain size and all your friends that are on steroids will eventually lose that size because of all the reasons mentioned above. You don't just wake up one day and decide you want to be big and have it happen. Massive amounts of hardwork, research, and money go into learning how to train properly, diet perfectly, and supplement accordingly. Steroids should be the last thing on your mind right now. I have been in the gym for 15 years and I just now decided to do my first cycle. There is always ways to make improvements without steroids, especially at your level. Listen to these guys man!!!

[beeasy1689]

i know alot of peple who have done that, and after not getting bigger, they go to gear. i've told people i want to get big, they tell me i need to cycle. which is why i'm here....didn't expect the advice i'd get on a steroid website would be to not use steroids. that's kind of ironic....however, i would still appreciate if someone could answer my questions.

well, this isnt a website where everyone is just talking about pumping themselves with chemicals and asking "who much can YOU bench?", people here (for the most part) are very knowledgeable about the whole life style and if someone absolutely is NOT ready to use steroids, they will tell that person that it is not a good idea. if you expect everyone here to just tell you whatever you want to do is a good idea, you have the wrong impression. hes just looking out for you and your health. people here advised me not to do them yet, and if i were to have listened to, like, my friends or some dude at the gym telling me it was a good idea to cycle when it was not a good idea...id most likely have some major health issues right now.

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If you haven't committed to seriously training for a significant amount of time, what makes you think you are ready to commit to steroids?

You wont keep your gains if you continue to do the on/off type training you have been doing.

things change....i smoked for about 5 years which made it VERY tough to work out. i quit 10 months ago, finally. i had tried but failed previous to that. u shouldn't assume just cuz something happened in the past it will continue to happen in the future. with that attitude, i'd still be smoking.

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okay guys, thanks!!!

[JohnnnyBlazzze]

i know alot of peple who have done that, and after not getting bigger, they go to gear. i've told people i want to get big, they tell me i need to cycle. which is why i'm here....didn't expect the advice i'd get on a steroid website would be to not use steroids. that's kind of ironic....however, i would still appreciate if someone could answer my questions.

If you lost 9lbs in a little over 3 weeks and only weigh 175lbs then it sounds like you don't know how to diet properly, no offence.

Learn how to eat and develop a solid training routine.

Gear isn't going to magically make you bigger if you don't know how to eat right and train properly. Sure you can go ahead and cycle and pack on about 15lbs of pure water in your first few weeks then when you go into PCT you will just loose everything. Waste of time and money honestly.

If you don't want to hear any of this then try it for yourself, waste your time, health and money. We are here to help people who are getting started in the area of AAS and if you choose not to take the advice that is given then what is the point of being here?

[beeasy1689]

also, ive been working out steadily for years and researching proper dieting, and training methods and im not ready to take them. One, because im under 25 (close...but still not there) and although I know a little bit about AAS, I only have a piece of the puzzle figured out so far. when I'm ready it will happen, and I feel like you got more time to put into it before you make any big decisions like this

[Capebuffalo]

I can say with certainty that you don't have a proper diet in place and you don't have enough training experience to use steroids. Any gains made will be lost as soon as you stop. Because you don't know how to maintain them. Sorry we are not telling you the secret shortcut to being big. There is no secret. You have to eat and train. Religiously.

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Any gains made will be lost as soon as you stop. Because you don't know how to maintain them.

so......i can't learn how to maintain them??

[JohnnnyBlazzze]

You should learn how to make gains first so you have something to maintain.

Why don't you start off in the diet/nutrition section so we can see what you're working with? Great place to start!

[itsjayman02]

Cape is saying without the proper protocols you will lose your gains!!

He knows is stuff and is advising you to take a correct course of action......

Train consistently for at least another year or two make your body ready for the increased stress on limbs.

With that base and proper pct a good percentage of your gains will be kept.

It's maybe not what you want to here but it's not just numerous side affects you need to contain but also a body that can handle it.

Good advice is only good if taken and cape's is !!!

[jasc]

so......i can't learn how to maintain them??

He's not saying that to attack you.. put simply you are what you eat. Those who eat like sh*t generally look like sh*t. Those who do not eat enough to grow will not grow, AAS or not. If your diet has not allowed you to add muscle and you cycle, you MAY see some gains, but as soon as you drop the AAS those gains will fade. AAS or not, nutrition is the most important factor in building muscle.

Also as another member mentioned, you are at a high risk for injury. AAS can help your muscles grow rapidly, however they do not build ligaments n tendons at the same rate. So without a sufficient base you are looking at increasing muscle size n stregnth much faster than your average guy but your ligaments n tendons will not grow accordingly. The over-working of the insufficient ligaments/tendons is the main cause of injury while using AAS. The only way to build the ligaments/tendons is to be consisent with your workout program for an extended period of time.