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    HRT + occasional dBol?

    I'm on HRT and don't expect to ever go off it (12 pellets, likely boosting to 15 next round). At 51, HRT has been very effective and I'm now feeling great. I work out 5-6 times a week and most would describe me as very fit and muscular. However, I've been stuck at the same plateau for a couple of years. My question: Any benefit in popping 10mg of dBol (per-workout) a few times a week? As I indicated, there is no cycling here, so I'm thinking this would be an added occasional kick. Thanks.

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    HRT is not a sufficient replacement when running dbol. I wouldnt waste money on 10mg of dbol. You will need to inject Test with it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by austinite View Post
    HRT is not a sufficient replacement when running dbol. I wouldnt waste money on 10mg of dbol. You will need to inject Test with it.
    Sufficient replacement for what?

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    I agree w/austinite. Test will be your best option.

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    Dang OP! You got the big dogs in on this one! Good job.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 61er View Post
    I'm on HRT and don't expect to ever go off it (12 pellets, likely boosting to 15 next round). At 51, HRT has been very effective and I'm now feeling great. I work out 5-6 times a week and most would describe me as very fit and muscular. However, I've been stuck at the same plateau for a couple of years. My question: Any benefit in popping 10mg of dBol (per-workout) a few times a week? As I indicated, there is no cycling here, so I'm thinking this would be an added occasional kick. Thanks.
    Any idea on what range the pellets put you at?

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    your hrt pellets will keep your total test stable regardless of the dbol. and since you're not thinking of blast and cruise, you probably can keep the hrt at your usual dose. low dose dbol 10mg 3-4x/wk probably wont cause a lot of sides, but i'm not sure how much benefits you'll reap too...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bonaparte View Post
    Sufficient replacement for what?
    Test production.

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    10mg here and there is stupid. If you're going to run it, run it for a few weeks every day at the appropriate dosages. Be sure to have the additional ancillaries on hand (extra AIs, liver support, etc.), and keep it as far away from your next bloodwork as possible.

    Treat is as a "real cycle", just without the PCT.

    Quote Originally Posted by austinite View Post
    Test production.
    His test pellets are implants. There's nothing to "replace" with dbol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by austinite View Post
    Test production.
    So...are you saying that the testosterone levels from his implants will decrease because of the Dbol?

    There is no need to run a higher than HRT dose with any steroid to maintain mood and libido, especially if it isn't something known for messing up one's libido. Sure, some may benefit from higher than normal levels of test to overpower the libido sides of 19-nors, but this isn't a requirement and can be done by simply controlling the sides of the offending drug, not just trying to overpower it with test.

    There is nothing wrong with adding some orals or other injectables to one's HRT. I'll add some Anavar to my Nebido HRT for a few weeks when I want a quick recomp without the hassle of a full-blown blast/cycle.
    But OP, you'd be much better off using a dose of at least 20-30mg daily for 2-4 weeks at a time to see a real benefit.

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    That is not what I said. I said his HRT is not sufficient. I indicated his 10mg dose is not worth it, therefore he would need to cycle to be effective. His implants combined with dbol would not make for a good cycle. I've done dbol on a TRT dose, and also done it with 500mg of test. Big difference.

    I'm not speaking of his goal of a "boost" a couple times a week. I'm referring to my recommendation of an effective cycle with better results.

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    Quote Originally Posted by austinite View Post
    That is not what I said. I said his HRT is not sufficient. I indicated his 10mg dose is not worth it, therefore he would need to cycle to be effective. His implants combined with dbol would not make for a good cycle. I've done dbol on a TRT dose, and also done it with 500mg of test. Big difference.

    I'm not speaking of his goal of a "boost" a couple times a week. I'm referring to my recommendation of an effective cycle with better results.
    Alright, I see what you're saying now (though you phrased it strangely before).
    He may not have access to injectable test that he trusts, or maybe does not want to run an extended test cycle, but just reap some quick size and strength benefits from the Dbol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 61er View Post
    I'm on HRT and don't expect to ever go off it (12 pellets, likely boosting to 15 next round). At 51, HRT has been very effective and I'm now feeling great. I work out 5-6 times a week and most would describe me as very fit and muscular. However, I've been stuck at the same plateau for a couple of years. My question: Any benefit in popping 10mg of dBol (per-workout) a few times a week? As I indicated, there is no cycling here, so I'm thinking this would be an added occasional kick. Thanks.
    A low dose should give you a good boost in strength. You should be able to control water retention fairly easily with a low dose even without an AI simply by eating right and maintaining a little cardiovascular activity. That is unless you happen to be extremely sensitive.

    As far as the total dosing itself, 10mg won't do a lot, but if it is a quality Dbol tab it should still provide a little boost. This was the average dosing range given to the U.S. Olympic Team when Dianabol was first released, however, in the modern age many consider 20mg to be the bottom performance dose.

    Last thing, it will not mess up your TRT program in any way.

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    Hi. 12 pellets lifted totol testosterone to 750 ng/dL, and free to 210 pg/mL. (Total was in low 200s prior to HRT.) This results in a calculated free percentage of 2.9% -- an amount that has had solid psychological benefits. According to information on one website, two 75mg pellets is equivalent to 25mg testosterone propionate, so 12 pellets is equiv to 150.

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