I read,after a cycle you should expect to lose 90% of your gains, what's the point?

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So, basically, when you are at your genetic maximum and then choose to cycle, you pretty much gain some muscle then eventually go back to your genetic maximum?correct, in my case and the case of plenty of experienced guys i know in real life, in fact, i know no-one who stays big all the time (except for constant users)

So my take is that you'll always only ever be at your genetic maximum when off cycle? When one reaches their genetic maximum then you think it would be much more intelligent to stay natural and just maintain that weight and attempt to get more lean/shredded. No point in cycling after reaching your genetic maximum.

Seems as though the only way you could get constantly bigger after reaching your maximum is through blasting and cruising. correct again, but you're selling your soul. to put into context when i self prescribed trt it was 250mg pw, i stayed at 102kgs constant, when i went legit i got roughly 100mg pw trt, i went down to 93kg pretty rapidly. the difference? WATER retention, plain and simple

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Thanks man. As always very helpful. I guess my overall goal is to reach my genetic limit (whatever that may be, I'm 185CM so probably at least 85KG) and then first maintain that, and then be as lean and shredded as possible.

[dec11]

Thanks man. As always very helpful. I guess my overall goal is to reach my genetic limit (whatever that may be, I'm 185CM so probably at least 85KG) and then first maintain that, and then be as lean and shredded as possible.

no prob, i'll always lay down my experiences as they happen, without fear of saying ive lost so called 'muscle weight' and losing internet kudos