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    What up Mr Pyle,

    Was looking at your thread here and in the diet section and it seems your situation and mine are fairly simalar except age. I work building maintenance and am on my feet all day long and probably walk about 4+ miles a day. I also cut from 20% to sub 15 in the past year, one thing that you mentioned in the other thread that really helped me was switching to a morning work-out. At first it was a real pain in the ass getting up that early but once used to it was soo much easier to work out first thing than to drive all the way home eat, shower and then try to get motivated enough to go back to the gym.

    One thing I did not see on your diet was what time your workout was and it also seemed to lack either a meal or PWO shake that was structured to provide the extra (preferably quick) carbs to fuel your workout needs? I am on a 40/40/20 split (slight deficit diet) myself and if I do not address my workout with a change in diet at that time (I use a big ass PWO shake with 75gs of whey and 100 of a malto/glucose split along with 10gs of creatine mono, but not everyone likes this approach) its very hard to get motivated and lean gains seem to really suffer...I mention this as now with a bulk you can address this with a slight increase in carbs throughout the day, however once you change from the surplus bulk to a deficet cut diet you will likely find this makes a huge difference. In my opinion a good shot of quick carbs PWO will allow you to adopt a deficit diet with minimal loss of lean muscle, where without this bump you would see a lot of loss.

    Just food for thought.

    FFM
    Last edited by Far from massive; 10-01-2012 at 11:40 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Far from massive
    What up Mr Pyle,

    Was looking at your thread here and in the diet section and it seems your situation and mine are fairly simalar except age. I work building maintenance and am on my feet all day long and probably walk about 4+ miles a day. I also cut from 20% to sub 15 in the past year, one thing that you mentioned in the other thread that really helped me was switching to a morning work-out. At first it was a real pain in the ass getting up that early but once used to it was soo much easier to work out first thing than to drive all the way home eat, shower and then try to get motivated enough to go back to the gym.

    One thing I did not see on your diet was what time your workout was and it also seemed to lack either a meal or PWO shake that was structured to provide the extra (preferably quick) carbs to fuel your workout needs? I am on a 40/40/20 split (slight deficit diet) myself and if I do not address my workout with a change in diet at that time (I use a big ass PWO shake with 75gs of whey and 100 of a malto/glucose split along with 10gs of creatine mono, but not everyone likes this approach) its very hard to get motivated and lean gains seem to really suffer...I mention this as now with a bulk you can address this with a slight increase in carbs throughout the day, however once you change from the surplus bulk to a deficet cut diet you will likely find this makes a huge difference. In my opinion a good shot of quick carbs PWO will allow you to adopt a deficit diet with minimal loss of lean muscle, where without this bump you would see a lot of loss.

    Just food for thought.

    FFM
    Well as you've read the first few weeks with the bulk diet I have posted I dropped about 5lbs. I started the am workouts ( 3 am start with the shake around 45 min before) and never edited the diet but what I did was added a shake pre workout that consists of 1 1/2 cups oats, 2 scoops whey, 1 scoop casein, and 10g of creatine mono. I also dropped a meal and added 3 whole grain tortillas to my breakfast which is now my post workout meal, and upped the carbs in what is now meals 3 and 4.

    This change has allowed me to gain at a fairly steady rate. As of this morning I weighed in at 168 and have maintained the same or possibly lower bf than my beginning pics. This puts me at an 8lb gain from my starting 160 and 13lb gain if you wanna count the 5 I had to gain back after I started.

    I also attribute some of the rate of my gains to the fact that I split my trt dose to a twice a week protocol to allow for more stable levels throughout the week.
    Last edited by Dpyle; 10-01-2012 at 04:32 PM.

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