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    Quote Originally Posted by Lunk1 View Post
    Not to get you fired up again...not my intent at all! I really hope you reconsider this decisio at your age. If I didnt truelly care about your health than I would just so venture forth and good luck.

    I REALLY think you can make your goals without taking these unneccessary risks. This isn't coming from a hypocrite that did it and now tell you not to. This is from nearly a 40 year old man that waited till he was 35 or so and felt that natural potential was slipping away with age.

    I would love to see you do some posting in nutrition and in the lifting forums and see if there is some tweaking that can get you what you want without risk. I mean is it more important to reach your goals or more important to say your on steroids. Again...no reason to blow up. I'm just speaking from the heart (and no I am not trying to be your parent) just a responsible adult.
    How old is he?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Swifto View Post
    How old is he?
    21 yo

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    I'm 21 Swifto.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lazarov View Post
    I'm 21 Swifto.
    My advice to you (if you care to take it) is not to cycle. Yes, I cycled at 19 years of age and now at almost 27 I wish I didnt. Why? Because I got such bad acne that I do not take my top of in public due to scarring. Its faded, but I still get it and have it even to this day.

    I bounced back fine but I was not one of the usual cases IMO. I have forgotten how many times I have had a newbie PM me and ask me what to do panicing as he cant get his dick hard, has no energy and has a total testosterone level of 200. You may or may not bounce back fine after doing steroids, I cant tell if you will or wont, but it happens. Those cases then end up on HRT at 21 years of age injecting testosterone in their glutes every 1-2 weeks for the rest of their natural life.

    IF you cycle, take the neccessary steps and limit ANY damage you may do. Use HCG, use an AI, limit the cycle length, take time off, get BW done prior to your cycle and after PCT (4-5 weeks after PCT is done), understand you may limit your growth, end up with scarring like me, or a small case of gyno (again like me).

    I dont suggest you use Testosterone at your age. Tbol or Var would be what I would do now if I could turn back time. Or Hdrol the OTC pro-hormone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Swifto View Post
    My advice to you (if you care to take it) is not to cycle. Yes, I cycled at 19 years of age and now at almost 27 I wish I didnt. Why? Because I got such bad acne that I do not take my top of in public due to scarring. Its faded, but I still get it and have it even to this day.

    I bounced back fine but I was not one of the usual cases IMO. I have forgotten how many times I have had a newbie PM me and ask me what to do panicing as he cant get his dick hard, has no energy and has a total testosterone level of 200. You may or may not bounce back fine after doing steroids, I cant tell if you will or wont, but it happens. Those cases then end up on HRT at 21 years of age injecting testosterone in their glutes every 1-2 weeks for the rest of their natural life.

    IF you cycle, take the neccessary steps and limit ANY damage you may do. Use HCG, use an AI, limit the cycle length, take time off, get BW done prior to your cycle and after PCT (4-5 weeks after PCT is done), understand you may limit your growth, end up with scarring like me, or a small case of gyno (again like me).

    I dont suggest you use Testosterone at your age. Tbol or Var would be what I would do now if I could turn back time. Or Hdrol the OTC pro-hormone.
    Jesus Swifto...I assumed you were as old as dirt. 27???? Damn kid yet lol....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lunk1 View Post
    Jesus Swifto...I assumed you were as old as dirt. 27???? Damn kid yet lol....
    I'm 26, 27 early next year. A lot of people assume I am older, but I'm not at all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Swifto View Post
    I'm 26, 27 early next year. A lot of people assume I am older, but I'm not at all.
    Easy to understand why people think he's older. Very educated individual.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Swifto View Post
    I'm 26, 27 early next year. A lot of people assume I am older, but I'm not at all.
    Enjoy your youth my friend...it's sneeks away far too quickly

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lunk1 View Post
    Enjoy your youth my friend...it's sneeks away far too quickly
    Tell me about it. I thought I was 21 last week. I notice the aches and pains already. Closer to 30 than 21 makes me think a lot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Swifto View Post
    My advice to you (if you care to take it) is not to cycle. Yes, I cycled at 19 years of age and now at almost 27 I wish I didnt. Why? Because I got such bad acne that I do not take my top of in public due to scarring. Its faded, but I still get it and have it even to this day.

    I bounced back fine but I was not one of the usual cases IMO. I have forgotten how many times I have had a newbie PM me and ask me what to do panicing as he cant get his dick hard, has no energy and has a total testosterone level of 200. You may or may not bounce back fine after doing steroids, I cant tell if you will or wont, but it happens. Those cases then end up on HRT at 21 years of age injecting testosterone in their glutes every 1-2 weeks for the rest of their natural life.

    IF you cycle, take the neccessary steps and limit ANY damage you may do. Use HCG, use an AI, limit the cycle length, take time off, get BW done prior to your cycle and after PCT (4-5 weeks after PCT is done), understand you may limit your growth, end up with scarring like me, or a small case of gyno (again like me).

    I dont suggest you use Testosterone at your age. Tbol or Var would be what I would do now if I could turn back time. Or Hdrol the OTC pro-hormone.
    I do care to take it. Hopefully I'll bounce back like you did.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lazarov View Post
    I do care to take it. Hopefully I'll bounce back like you did.
    Get some accutane and keep on hand. I wish someone told me to do that years ago.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Swifto View Post
    Get some accutane and keep on hand. I wish someone told me to do that years ago.
    Accutane much better than pantothenic acid I take it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lazarov View Post
    Accutane much better than pantothenic acid I take it?
    Vit B5 is good, but Accutane cleared up my acne in 4-5 weeks when it was real bad. Now if I break out, I run it for a couple of weeks at 10-20mg/ED and its gone.

    I may have another blast with Tren next year and try running Accutane when "on" and see how that goes, but even then, I dont think its worth the stress on my body. I'm not a bodybuilder.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lazarov View Post
    I do care to take it. Hopefully I'll bounce back like you did.
    This attitude is rediculous and very high risk. You realize that by treating this whole endeavor in such a manner, it really is like playing Russian roulette with your HPTA?

    "Well, here goes! I'm going to run across the street with a blindfold on, and like you, hopefully I won't get slammed by a car doing it!"

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