Atomini's all-you-need-to-know about TREN and how to use it effectively thread!

[Bouch]

400mg per week of Masteron thrown on top of Test and Tren would be ideal. But what you have to understand is that it is mostly a cosmetic compound, meaning its effects manifest itself through giving your body that harder denser 3D look to your muscles. This can only happen at a low enough bodyfat, of course. It's a compound that is most useful to competing bodybuilders. To the average recreational AAS user, there isn't a whole lot of benefit to using it other than for its ability to hinder SHBG and act as a mild aromatase inhibitor. Through these 2 abilities, it can potentiate the effect of other steroids stacked with it.

My personal preference is to halt everything at the same time and I like to advise others of doing the same thing, though this practice is mostly a personal preference issue. It really doesn't matter either way but when you terminate your cycle, I believe its optimal to halt everything and begin the recovery process ASAP rather than screw around with running compounds for lingering weeks after other compounds have been halted, etc... it just delays your recovery process. I believe in halting everything all at once, as the quicker you get off the quicker you recover. Suppression is suppression, and it remains so even with exogenous test still in your system. To me, the concept of keeping test going for a week or 2 after halting tren is as an outmoted idea as tapering off AAS rather than halting administration immediately and doing PCT , which is of course what they did in the old days. Best to just stop everything at the same time.

I can get ahold of masteron e 150. Would 300mg/week suffice? And does it do anything at a lower dose say 150mg/week?

My stack would look like this:
Week 1-10 test e 250 1ml 2x/wk = 500mg
Week1-5 tren hex 150 .75ml 2x/wk = 225mg
Week 6-8 tren hex 150 .5ml 2x/wk = 150mg
Week 6-10 masteron e 150 .5ml 2x/wk = 150mg
Week 4-11 L-dex 0.25mg EOD

Pct
Novla
40/40/20/30
Clomid
70/35/35/35

Would this be an efficient stack? I am thinking these doses to keep the pin to 2ml max and since I want to stretch out the tren as long as possible. I could only get one 10ml vial of the tren hex and masteron 150.

[Castor87]

I was looking at doing a cycle or prop/tren-a

Weeks 1-8: 125mg prop/wk
Weeks 1-6: 300mg tren/wk

I have been reading a lot about short burst cycles (2-4 weeks in length) and am very interested in their ability to reduce sides and promote a quicker recovery. I usually get horrible sides when on cycle, and recovery usually takes me months even when on test only. I've done 2 cycles in the past, this will be my first with tren however and I haven't gone above 400mg/week of test. How would you recommend running tren in a short cycle at a low dose? The only readings I can find about these short cycles usually have test and tren at about 400-600mg/wk each... I'd like to do a 4 week run, however I'm worried about going to this high of a dose especially since I respond to gear very easily. I also don't like being on and off for long periods of time but do not wish to blast and cruise, I'm 24, 5'5 and compete on stage at ~160lbs. I've done 8 shows in my past and am currently preparing for the IFBB Australian Nationals next year.