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    sorry for my ignorance but ive looked the chucks results.can someone translate them for me ? are they good ?

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    I posted the results of my labcorp BW to refute the accucations of being a liar and bullshiter by Dan B. It took me hrs to get it on the forum after all the trouble and learning and trying to be honest. I am now told to remove my posts because they have personal info. I will do so only after DanB reads and replys. If it is against forum rules then I will do so. That will cause me more tech ability than I have now. Thank you of those who have advised me against doing this. Please tell me how to operate the forum posts to send DanB the info without causing any angst to those of you who care about the possible damage to my personal info.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChuckEisenmench View Post
    I posted the results of my labcorp BW to refute the accucations of being a liar and bullshiter by Dan B. It took me hrs to get it on the forum after all the trouble and learning and trying to be honest. I am now told to remove my posts because they have personal info. I will do so only after DanB reads and replys. If it is against forum rules then I will do so. That will cause me more tech ability than I have now. Thank you of those who have advised me against doing this. Please tell me how to operate the forum posts to send DanB the info without causing any angst to those of you who care about the possible damage to my personal info.
    All you need to do is edit your personal information out, you posted your name etc which isnt a wise thing to do on a steroid forum. Just blank it out and re-post it.

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    Chuck_1 (2).pdfChuck_2.pdf

    Chuck was not telling you to remove your personal information, just letting you know that it was there as I assumed you would not want anyone viewing to know your name, home address, birthdate etc. with the amount of information that is on the forms identity theft is a distinct possibility.

    Anyway I know some of this technical crap like editing electronic files can be a pain in the ass for some, so I have taken the liberty of editing the files for you. If you want just copy and paste them to your post.
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    Thanks for all your help. I was responding to DanB who has, with some cause doubted my numbers. I only after months of harassment posted all the info I had without knowing the problems this has with identity theft. If you are able to forward my lab reports to DanB I would appreciate it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChuckEisenmench View Post
    Thanks for all your help. I was responding to DanB who has, with some cause doubted my numbers. I only after months of harassment posted all the info I had without knowing the problems this has with identity theft. If you are able to forward my lab reports to DanB I would appreciate it.
    The other members were being sincere in letting you know about the personal information that was being exposed on your lab reports. In spite of what you may perceive based on the posts in this thread you should be thankful they addressed the lab reports. I'm in no way being disrespectful, i just know the security risk's related to exposure..... The internet can be very informative and very scary. Once something is placed on the net it can leave a thumb print for life. The information that you accidentally posted through a simple background check will show addresses, criminal reports, telephone numbers associates, relatives etc. You can purchase a subscription to a background check company for as little as 25.00 a month. Just an FYI regarding the internet in general.
    Respectfully,

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChuckEisenmench View Post
    Thanks for all your help. I was responding to DanB who has, with some cause doubted my numbers. I only after months of harassment posted all the info I had without knowing the problems this has with identity theft. If you are able to forward my lab reports to DanB I would appreciate it.
    You still need to go back and remove your original posts with your info. Just FYI

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChuckEisenmench
    Thanks for all your help. I was responding to DanB who has, with some cause doubted my numbers. I only after months of harassment posted all the info I had without knowing the problems this has with identity theft. If you are able to forward my lab reports to DanB I would appreciate it.
    you posted 2 lab figures in last few months with nothing to back it up, 3 months i am waiting on first result and 1 month on latest

    pm me both your lab results with something proving legitimacy in the pic. i.e todays newspaper

    and why it has taken you this long is beyond me

    and by the way i am far from the only member to be skeptical to put it nicely

    but send me the pm, if im wrong i will post an open apology in here

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    Quote Originally Posted by swithuk View Post
    sorry for my ignorance but ive looked the chucks results.can someone translate them for me ? are they good ?

    Yes they are good if.accurate 51 i believe ir serum was
    and on how many ius are u taking and your age be the reason also.for high number since ur over 50 from ir b date

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    You know I'm done trying to satify you with authentic documentation.

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    I've had excellent feedback from the Russian Jins another 2 guys say they are 100% and they had blood serum tests done. I've still not purchased any yet but I do intend to.

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    Labcorp

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    If you're happy with your results then by all means carry on, but no need for the hostile pm's.

    Not sure why it's so important to you that you have confirmation from this board that your gh is legit.......

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    Because I was called a liar and bullshitter by DanB,

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChuckEisenmench
    Because I was called a liar and bullshitter by DanB,
    yes and you still claim you can prove me wrong but im still waiting on the pm with 2 sets of labs so i still stand by my comments

    i just got a serum test, it was 96.6, does anybody believe that?nope

    proof is needed otherwise its very easy to just type a few numbers like i done above, and this is months that i have requested proof and it still hasnt been provided

    so my claims of bullshit are justified

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    When I PM you I don't see where to add attachments!

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    sorry to go off topic ... but im in contact with a supplier who says they cannot send me the g.h by post as it requires special temperature conditions and cannot be sent ......

    is this true ? i thought that it was ok to send via post as long as water had not been added to it yet ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by swithuk
    sorry to go off topic ... but im in contact with a supplier who says they cannot send me the g.h by post as it requires special temperature conditions and cannot be sent ......

    is this true ? i thought that it was ok to send via post as long as water had not been added to it yet ?
    Had the same question, well kinda, supplier didn't say they couldn't but I was wondering if it would be degraded from shipping.

    Also, to test to see if its real you can pin it and 4 hours later get ur hgh serum levels tested right? Is there anything that can skew this number? Or a better way to test it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by swithuk View Post
    sorry to go off topic ... but im in contact with a supplier who says they cannot send me the g.h by post as it requires special temperature conditions and cannot be sent ......

    is this true ? i thought that it was ok to send via post as long as water had not been added to it yet ?
    Not true.

    It must be shipped with cooling packs that can keep it within the proper temp range. Unactivated GH still needs to be temp controlled.

    My guess is that if it's coming from a far distance they may be concerned with you getting your gh in it's proper condition.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MyteeJ View Post
    Not true.

    It must be shipped with cooling packs that can keep it within the proper temp range. Unactivated GH still needs to be temp controlled.

    My guess is that if it's coming from a far distance they may be concerned with you getting your gh in it's proper condition.
    so does that mean if it is not cool packed then its defiantly off . im sure my previous source was good and they never cool packed my g.h

    does dhl,for example, charge alot more to do that ?

    what about a couple of years ago when ankiebio was good and everyone in the u.s were buying ,they were cool packed .....?

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    Quote Originally Posted by swithuk View Post
    sorry to go off topic ... but im in contact with a supplier who says they cannot send me the g.h by post as it requires special temperature conditions and cannot be sent ......

    is this true ? i thought that it was ok to send via post as long as water had not been added to it yet ?
    Quote Originally Posted by Tron3219 View Post
    Had the same question, well kinda, supplier didn't say they couldn't but I was wondering if it would be degraded from shipping.

    Also, to test to see if its real you can pin it and 4 hours later get ur hgh serum levels tested right? Is there anything that can skew this number? Or a better way to test it?
    That's actually a pretty good sign since yes hgh needs to be keep cool. They should be able to send it inside a Styrofoam container with a couple of cool packs though. As long as it does not take more than 3 days it should be perfectly fine. If it's like a week+ I would worry.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lovbyts View Post
    That's actually a pretty good sign since yes hgh needs to be keep cool. They should be able to send it inside a Styrofoam container with a couple of cool packs though. As long as it does not take more than 3 days it should be perfectly fine. If it's like a week+ I would worry.
    yes mine takes a week each time .................they wont send to the u.k themselves for this reason

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tron3219 View Post
    Had the same question, well kinda, supplier didn't say they couldn't but I was wondering if it would be degraded from shipping.

    Also, to test to see if its real you can pin it and 4 hours later get ur hgh serum levels tested right? Is there anything that can skew this number? Or a better way to test it?
    unless they have stored it for long time at room temperature and then ship it in some heat conditions either at departure or anywhere on the way (sitting on the airport in plain summer sun) you have no problem with shipped gh. the lyophilized gh is pretty stable...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sheven View Post
    unless they have stored it for long time at room temperature and then ship it in some heat conditions either at departure or anywhere on the way (sitting on the airport in plain summer sun) you have no problem with shipped gh. the lyophilized gh is pretty stable...
    good to know , thanks

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    New batch of Ansomone is real!

    Update! The new replacement batch of Ansomone I am using is real, unlike the last batch I received back in the summer. It's the strongest batch yet. I want some more if I can get the same quality. Everyone at the gym thinks I am prepping for a show and I am using only 3-4ius daily. Veins and cuts everywhere and I am not doing cardio or eating low carbs, just a clean diet.

    My thoughts are order it only during the cooler months then if it's bad we know for a fact they are selectively scamming us because there will be no excuse of heat degrading it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ronnie Rowland View Post
    Update! The new replacement batch of Ansomone I am using is real, unlike the last batch I received back in the summer. It's the strongest batch yet. I want some more if I can get the same quality. Everyone at the gym thinks I am prepping for a show and I am using only 3-4ius daily. Veins and cuts everywhere and I am not doing cardio or eating low carbs, just a clean diet.

    My thoughts are order it only during the cooler months then if it's bad we know for a fact they are selectively scamming us because there will be no excuse of heat degrading it.


    The only reason why you got 100% hgh
    from ankie is because they were concerned about the negative reports on
    the forums and also the bad blood serum test what have been posted. They
    are selling fakes to the underground market and its a toss up if you get
    real or fakes. They even have a fake site what they pretend not to have
    anything to do with. It wasn't the heat what caused the hgh to not work
    it was because they are selling fakes and they wanted to quieten you up
    by offering you free hgh like they have done with other friends I know.
    Which pharm grade company offer free hgh if your not happy with the product
    they have sent you and if you tell them your going to spread the word all
    over the internet....At the end of the day they cant be trusted.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ronnie Rowland
    Update! The new replacement batch of Ansomone I am using is real, unlike the last batch I received back in the summer. It's the strongest batch yet. I want some more if I can get the same quality. Everyone at the gym thinks I am prepping for a show and I am using only 3-4ius daily. Veins and cuts everywhere and I am not doing cardio or eating low carbs, just a clean diet.

    My thoughts are order it only during the cooler months then if it's bad we know for a fact they are selectively scamming us because there will be no excuse of heat degrading it.
    I've been seeing this brand everywhere lately. Is there specific batch numbers or sites that are legit or real? I'd be willing to give them a try on price alone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by human project View Post
    I've been seeing this brand everywhere lately. Is there specific batch numbers or sites that are legit or real? I'd be willing to give them a try on price alone.
    i wouldnt bother mate they are selectively scamming . if they did sell you real g.h initially they would just send you fake further down the track . thats what they did to me

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    Quote Originally Posted by marcus300 View Post
    The only reason why you got 100% hgh
    from ankie is because they were concerned about the negative reports on
    the forums and also the bad blood serum test what have been posted. They
    are selling fakes to the underground market and its a toss up if you get
    real or fakes. They even have a fake site what they pretend not to have
    anything to do with. It wasn't the heat what caused the hgh to not work
    it was because they are selling fakes and they wanted to quieten you up
    by offering you free hgh like they have done with other friends I know.
    Which pharm grade company offer free hgh if your not happy with the product
    they have sent you and if you tell them your going to spread the word all
    over the internet....At the end of the day they cant be trusted.
    I agree 100% . at best its all very suspicious and not worth the risk

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    Quote Originally Posted by human project View Post
    I've been seeing this brand everywhere lately. Is there specific batch numbers or sites that are legit or real? I'd be willing to give them a try on price alone.
    If you read the last few pages of this thread it will give you a good idea what ankie are up to.

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    Quote Originally Posted by marcus300

    If you read the last few pages of this thread it will give you a good idea what ankie are up to.
    Honestly I haven't read the entire thread but intend to. I need to find a good generic "cheap" brand.

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    Quote Originally Posted by human project View Post
    Honestly I haven't read the entire thread but intend to. I need to find a good generic "cheap" brand.
    I wouldn't buy cheap generic gh, its a complete waste of money and you would be better finding a pharm grade, it works out cheaper in the long run especially when you waste your money on all the generics. I know the thread will take some reading but it will give you a more of an idea about cheap or generics.

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    I have to agree with marcus-This forum has obviously had an impact on ankie and they went to the trouble to satisfy Ronnie whose credibility is very high to others on this forum. Unfortunately HGH is not product you can just go to the store and pick a different brand if you do not like the brand you are using. After intentionally selling fake product and getting CAUGHT, Ankie made a business decision to make up a potent batch and reverse buyers opinion of them. Now basically they have an endorsement of how good there product is on this forum. I do not know what there strategy is from this point. It's kind of like:"I caught my girlfriend (wife) cheating for the 10th time". Ok do i stay with her?? They may decide to just make a very weak product rather than completely bogus. Kind of a tough call for us buyers when it comes to HGH, options for most are pretty slim-go to the DOC and pay top price for pharm grade. That would be my choice and that is the route i would go. What do you do when you just bought 20 or thirty kits and half or ALL are junk!!! I never plan on risking purchasing junk again. I would say that all of these companies selling fakes are going to continue selling them. Ronnie: You may not get another bad kit again and that's probably a very unusual situation. Bottom line is i still say there selling fake is not due to heat, it's intentional! Just something to think about.

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    Thumbs down Don't even bother!

    What it confirmed to me is that ankie does indeed make real GH for their local doctors in China and that's what I received this last time around. It also showed me that others (like us bodybuilders) outside that loop in China are being scammed Big-Time and their government is involved.

    I would also like to make note that they still owe me $500 worth of Ansomone GH they never replaced and probably never will. Also, one of the 10iu vials was hard like concrete and would not mix up (just like the ones I received back in the summer months) so one of the boxes was counterfeit.

    I DO NOT TRUST THEM!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ronnie Rowland View Post
    What it confirmed to me is that ankie does indeed make real GH for their local doctors in China and that's what I received this last time around. It also showed me that others (like us bodybuilders) outside that loop in China are being scammed Big-Time and their government is involved.

    I would also like to make note that they still owe me $500 worth of Ansomone GH they never replaced and probably never will. Also, one of the 10iu vials was hard like concrete and would not mix up (just like the ones I received back in the summer months) so one of the boxes was counterfeit.

    I DO NOT TRUST THEM!
    It also sounds like the new stuff we got was more potent than the original stuff which makes you believe that they made it that way so we would give good reviews on the boards. If they can make different strengths of hgh then its plain to see what they are up to. I do think they are selling a mixture of good and fake gh to the underground and its not totally fake but even if you get half good half fake its still not worth taking the risk

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ronnie Rowland View Post
    What it confirmed to me is that ankie does indeed make real GH for their local doctors in China and that's what I received this last time around. It also showed me that others (like us bodybuilders) outside that loop in China are being scammed Big-Time and their government is involved.

    I would also like to make note that they still owe me $500 worth of Ansomone GH they never replaced and probably never will. Also, one of the 10iu vials was hard like concrete and would not mix up (just like the ones I received back in the summer months) so one of the boxes was counterfeit.

    I DO NOT TRUST THEM!

    Quote Originally Posted by marcus300 View Post
    It also sounds like the new stuff we got was more potent than the original stuff which makes you believe that they made it that way so we would give good reviews on the boards. If they can make different strengths of hgh then its plain to see what they are up to. I do think they are selling a mixture of good and fake gh to the underground and its not totally fake but even if you get half good half fake its still not worth taking the risk
    They must be able to cut it up somehow using less of what they use to cut it for potency.
    It's kind of funny how there attempt at satisfying Ronnie with a more potent product fell short by throwing in a bottle that was hard as a rock. They may have done that because there nature to screw people just can't escape them. The other thought is that there waiting for Ronnie to call them and tell them about the bottle that was hard and not able to use, they will tell him that it may have been heat damaged like the other ones. Then Ronnie can ask them if the weather temperature changed in China, since they never had a heat damage problem for 10 years. Or Ronnie can ask them if there cutting back on there quality control people and using there cleaning crew for quality control. LOL--Sometimes you have to say ridiculous stuff back at people to make them feel as ignorant as they sound.
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    Quote Originally Posted by marcus300 View Post
    It also sounds like the new stuff we got was more potent than the original stuff which makes you believe that they made it that way so we would give good reviews on the boards. If they can make different strengths of hgh then its plain to see what they are up to. I do think they are selling a mixture of good and fake gh to the underground and its not totally fake but even if you get half good half fake its still not worth taking the risk
    Exactly! This last batch at 3ius is every bit as strong as 8 ius of the first batch I got that had real GH in it. And the summer batch was just some sort of fake GH powder that did absolutely nothing! I also find it messed up that ITRAIN (Sponsor of ANSOMONE from professional muscle) has yet to come over here on this board and be honest about what's really going on.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ronnie Rowland View Post
    Exactly! This last batch at 3ius is every bit as strong as 8 ius of the first batch I got that had real GH in it. And the summer batch was just some sort of fake GH powder that did absolutely nothing! I also find it messed up that ITRAIN (Sponsor of ANSOMONE from professional muscle) has yet to come over here on this board and be honest about what's really going on.
    great point ................!

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    Quote Originally Posted by marcus300 View Post
    It also sounds like the new stuff we got was more potent than the original stuff which makes you believe that they made it that way so we would give good reviews on the boards. If they can make different strengths of hgh then its plain to see what they are up to. I do think they are selling a mixture of good and fake gh to the underground and its not totally fake but even if you get half good half fake its still not worth taking the risk
    That's the only logical explanation. I am a bit overwhelmed at the results I have obtained in such a short period of time using only 3-4ius per day.

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