Running may be harmful to your heart!

[Armykid93]

Quick hijack for a "funny" story

we went on a forced "ruck" march as you call it. 25 miles. but instead of getting into a cattle truck to take us to where we were going, they marched us there. It was five (5) friggin miles away!! And it was muddy and slight rain to boot. After we got there, there was someone there from AFN (or is the newspaper called stars and stripes? can't remember...) taking pictures. Since there was a company of females in this march, the big concern was that no guys would drop out, only the women. So to help stack the deck in favor of the women, they marched us (men) 5 miles before our 25 mile road march. The women showed up on the cattle trucks. Many of the women did drop out, a good percentage of them. AND many men dropped out too. This was back in 1979 when you didn't get those pvssy cards you couuld give to the DI when things got too rough and they couldn't scream at you when you gave them the card. Anyways, the article in the paper noted that it was a rough march, as jjust as many men as women dropped out, and that the women were tough and credit to the women DI's for the fabulous training the female soldiers recieved, enabling them to have almost the same number of drop outs as the men. What the article didn't say was that there were 800 men, and maybe 120 women, and all the men had to march the five miles to get to the starting point, where the women rode the cattle truck.

Back in my day, a "ruck" march was full field gear (field pants/shirt over your regular fatigues) all your suppplies (c rations, water, etc.), M16, steel pot, AND rubber boots over your jump boots.

There were no cards to give drill sergeants in my basic. That's a myth, they don't do it.

[Atomini]

There were no cards to give drill sergeants in my basic. That's a myth, they don't do it.

Yeah that's an absolute myth. WHen I worked with a lot of Americans, I asked them about this and it's absolutely not true. HOWEVER, I did hear that the origin of this myth has a bit of truth to it where back at a brief point for a few months during the Clinton administration, these 'stress cards' or whatever you call them were implemented and tested. They quickly scrapped the idea after a few months of trying this out for whatever reasons.

[Times Roman]

There were no cards to give drill sergeants in my basic. That's a myth, they don't do it.

Yeah that's an absolute myth. WHen I worked with a lot of Americans, I asked them about this and it's absolutely not true. HOWEVER, I did hear that the origin of this myth has a bit of truth to it where back at a brief point for a few months during the Clinton administration, these 'stress cards' or whatever you call them were implemented and tested. They quickly scrapped the idea after a few months of trying this out for whatever reasons.

True. I don't know this for a fact. Just heard my kid and his friends talking about it and thought.... "what a load of crap"

well, it's good they don't do that anymore. I don't think that when we go to the desert, that if things get rough, if one of our soldiers were to give a stress card to the Iraqi Republican Guard, that they will cut us some slack and let us take a time out if things get too intense.......?

[Honkey_Kong]

There were no cards to give drill sergeants in my basic. That's a myth, they don't do it.

Yeah, but you also went to Ft. Jackson didn't you?