You'll want to read this!

[Ronnie Rowland]

I have never used steroids, just creatine, protein, and aakg, but it seems I have gained nothing..I want to gain more muscle and mass which steroids should I begin using, I am 35yrs old and I weight 180 ...2ccs of of test-e or test-c once a week

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[Ronnie Rowland]

Copy that..

Just to make sure..what Tren you are talking about? Tren E or Tren Acetate Both forms of tren will work but I would go with tren-e because it tends to have fewer side effects during injection (not as much tren cough) and fewer side effects throughout the week. Also, you can stop all injections about 4 days out from the show with tren-e and that means less risk of getting a lump for the judges to see on stage.

And the aromasin, how should it be take it? .025 mgs daily the first 6 weeks of the 12 week contest prep then .05mgs daily the last 6 weeks. Run it it all the way til the morning of the show.

And once I have everything in hands I will post the cycle ok

Thanks for all the help

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[The Titan99]

First beware of counterfeit products being sold by underground labs that could pose a hazard to your health. I've never used it personally but I know of others who have and some got nauseated and light headed while others did not. Start out with .025mgs daily then progress to .05mgs after 4 days if well tolerated. Melonotan-II is know forr accelerating tanning, increasing libido and reducing ones appetite. Let us know how it works and i would inject it into the abs just like GH shots using an insulin pin. above

Thanks Ron. I was going to use AR-R so it should be OK. I'll let you know how it goes.

[Lazarov]

He took his avatar picture after finishing this post. :P

[Tetyana]

will you be interested to know what particular steroid would work for you? doctors say that some danabolics can be not efficient for particlular people. would you pay for a test "muscle biopsy" that will tell you what anabolic compound is most efficient for you?

[Ronnie Rowland]

will you be interested to know what particular steroid would work for you? doctors say that some danabolics can be not efficient for particlular people. would you pay for a test "muscle biopsy" that will tell you what anabolic compound is most efficient for you? A muscle biopsy would be a waste of time. The more muscle fibers one has- the more muscle receptors one will have-hence the better results one will get from any anabolic steroid.

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[rblue]

Ron, I'm on an 8 week reload with test prop 600mg-wk tren ace 400 mg-wk. My question is for my deload I want to switch to test cyp so I don't have to pin as much for the 2 weeks. Im also dropping the tren for the deload. When would I have to start adding the cyp to my present cycle in order for it to kick in for the deload? And how much? I'm at the end of week one of my reload. Thanks.

[slimshady01]

Ron, I'm on an 8 week reload with test prop 600mg-wk tren ace 400 mg-wk. My question is for my deload I want to switch to test cyp so I don't have to pin as much for the 2 weeks. Im also dropping the tren for the deload. When would I have to start adding the cyp to my present cycle in order for it to kick in for the deload? And how much? I'm at the end of week one of my reload. Thanks.

That's a good question , I was on prop and Tbol my first 8 weeks and switched to cyp and deca my second blast. I started adding the cyp at 250mg a week 2 weeks out from deload . I thought that was good enough but when I stopped the prop and Tbol I lost like 8 lbs in 9 days. That was almost Everything I gained. I'm not sure if enough test was in my blood or if the Tbol gains evaporated..

Be curious to see Ronnie's answer so i do it right next time

[bigp87]

Thanks for the info ron! Much Appreciated!

Just another quick question, regarding the full pct etc

I was on a 20 week cutting cycle before, My last jab was SUS 250 (@125mg, only 1/2ml) over 3 weeks ago.
I plan on taking another week off, before jumping back on. (Will be 4 weeks since last injection)

When you say a 4 week pct, do you refer to 4 weeks of the ester being cleared from your system (18 days roughly post injection) or 4 weeks after last jab?

Will 4 weeks post last injection be enough to be recovered? I feel fine, and I came off with only natural supplements i.e D-Aspartic Acid, No Nolvadex or clomid.
I have no ED, and libido seems to be normal.

Thanks again Ron!!

[>Good Luck<]

Hey Ron, quick question. You say that reloads are 8 week of gear and deloads are 2 weeks bridge or pct... How could you do any pct in that short of a time if you choose not to cruise? I suppose if you only use prop it would be possible to pct but if I choose test e I would need to wait 14 days to start pct - right?

[Ronnie Rowland]

Ron, I'm on an 8 week reload with test prop 600mg-wk tren ace 400 mg-wk. My question is for my deload I want to switch to test cyp so I don't have to pin as much for the 2 weeks. Im also dropping the tren for the deload. When would I have to start adding the cyp to my present cycle in order for it to kick in for the deload? Test cypionate will kick in just about as fast as the test prop post injection but it won't peak as high-hence you will not feel it's effects nearly as rapid as prop. And how much? 1 cc of test cyp per week at your level of steroid usage. Inject it the first day you begin your 2 week deload! I'm at the end of week one of my reload. Thanks.

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[Ronnie Rowland]

That's a good question , I was on prop and Tbol my first 8 weeks and switched to cyp and deca my second blast. I started adding the cyp at 250mg a week 2 weeks out from deload . I thought that was good enough but when I stopped the prop and Tbol I lost like 8 lbs in 9 days. That was almost Everything I gained. I'm not sure if enough test was in my blood or if the Tbol gains evaporated..That kind of weight loss is what you want to happen during a deload. If you are maintaining all of your water weight after having reduced aromatizing steroids you are not doing the deload right. Remember, this is a needed recovery phase. You can't keep gaining year round!

Be curious to see Ronnie's answer so i do it right next time

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[Ronnie Rowland]

thanks for the info ron! Much appreciated!

Just another quick question, regarding the full pct etc

i was on a 20 week cutting cycle before, my last jab was sus 250 (@125mg, only 1/2ml) over 3 weeks ago.
I plan on taking another week off, before jumping back on. (will be 4 weeks since last injection)

when you say a 4 week pct, do you refer to 4 weeks of the ester being cleared from your system (18 days roughly post injection) or 4 weeks after last jab? There is room for variation with pct. A solid plan would start pct with 2500 iu of hcg eod beginning 1 week after your last injection and do it for 3 weeks.

will 4 weeks post last injection be enough to be recovered? I feel fine, and i came off with only natural supplements i.e d-aspartic acid, no nolvadex or clomid.
I have no ed, and libido seems to be normal.

Thanks again ron!!

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[jmcbride69]

Awesome read

[Ronnie Rowland]

Hey Ron, quick question. You say that reloads are 8 week of gear and deloads are 2 weeks bridge or pct... How could you do any pct in that short of a time if you choose not to cruise? I suppose if you only use prop it would be possible to pct but if I choose test e I would need to wait 14 days to start pct - right? Test-e active life is only around 7 days not 14. A full PCT can only be done when you come off all gear for 4-6 weeks . A modified pct could consist of 2 weeks of hcg at 2500 iu eod during the 2 week deload. A much better plan if you want kids is to shoot 250 iu of hcg twice a week during reloads and deloads (keep 1cc of test-e in weekly during 2 week deload) then do a full pct when coming off all anabolics. I also highly encourage you younger guys that use often to be on the safe side by getting your sperm freezed and preserved just in the rare case you become infertile and need to artificially inseminate your wife.

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[>Good Luck<]

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Seems logical. I agree that younger guys like myself should take those precautions. Infertility is not a worry for me as I am already father of 3 and to much of a pvssy to get snipped. I would probably prefer to bridge given the advice you have given. 2500iu hcg eod is a bit much for me IMO considering hcg will raise test as well as e. Thanks for the advice Ron, your knowledge is appreciated

[Ronnie Rowland]

Seems logical. I agree that younger guys like myself should take those precautions. Infertility is not a worry for me as I am already father of 3 and to much of a pvssy to get snipped. I would probably prefer to bridge given the advice you have given. 2500iu hcg eod is a bit much for me IMO considering hcg will raise test as well as e. Thanks for the advice Ron, your knowledge is appreciated Yes, in your case bridging is far superior to using hcg!

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[kml999]

Hey Ronny,

first i'll start with my stats:
Age- 30
Height- 5'6" (167cm)
Weight: 82kgs (180lbs), during cycle
fat: around 16-17%

cycle history:
1- 500mg/wk test e with adex 0.5 EOD, typical pct
2- 500mg/wk test e, 30mg dbol, hcg 250iu 2x/wk, 1.25mg letro ED and typical pct (gained good results on this cycle)


current cycle:

1-4 30mg dbol
1-14 600mg/wk test e
1-12 400mg/wk deca
1-16 hcg 250iu 2x/wk
1-16 25mg aromasin ED
1-12 caber 0.5mg 2x/wk
4-14 HGH 1iu starting on 4th wk (just trying it out)

i did blood work prior to cycle and everything was all good then i jumped on cycle. I did another blood test on the 4th wk of the cycle, which am currently at and tests came back with:

Estradiol: 73 (11-44)
prolactin: <0.6 (3.46-19.4)
progesterone: 0.5 (<0.1-0.2)

now my questions are:
1- why is my progesterone high? is it because of the estrogen being high? or its from the HGH? or from the use of Minoxidol spray that i use to prevent hair loss? or from the HCG?
2- how do i know my deca is legit from the values above?
3- from my knowledge caber lowers prolcatin ONLY, but i keep reading on this forum and hearing from some members on here that it reduces progesterone too! please comment on this

cycle adjustments:
1- running letro at 1.25mg ED and will do blood work after 3-4 wks, but if my e2 crushes i will lower letro to 0.625 ed
2- run cabergoline 0.5mg 2x/wk or adjust dosage?
3- lower test e to 500mg/wk and deca as is
4- stopped using dbol since i have noticed my body aromatases a lot when am on dbol

Please answer my questions and critisize anything on my cycle. I did my research, but evetually noticed a few topics here on how to lower progesterone levels

[mockery]

hey Ronnie.

this has happend twice now, The second reload about 3-4 weeks in i find that gradual weekly calorie increase to meet the needs of my anabolic growth phase no longer works, and both times now i find i hit a wall and even 500 calories increase is not enough. i am talking 2000+ increase to an already calorie surplus diet over night is need. this second time around i dropped my calories for 3 days to around 2-3 meals a day to see what would happen out of curiosity and lost all my water weight 6-8 lbs, by day three i was shredded and look like i was half way through my show prep. Whats the cause or need to jump my calories so high when small increases not to add to much fat work fine and then just STOP. is this myostatin? is this something else?? the fact its happened two times now in the same week on different reloads means its something important.

can u try and shed some light on this.

thanks

regards

[The Titan99]

hey Ronnie.

this has happend twice now, The second reload about 3-4 weeks in i find that gradual weekly calorie increase to meet the needs of my anabolic growth phase no longer works, and both times now i find i hit a wall and even 500 calories increase is not enough. i am talking 2000+ increase to an already calorie surplus diet over night is need. this second time around i dropped my calories for 3 days to around 2-3 meals a day to see what would happen out of curiosity and lost all my water weight 6-8 lbs, by day three i was shredded and look like i was half way through my show prep. Whats the cause or need to jump my calories so high when small increases not to add to much fat work fine and then just STOP. is this myostatin? is this something else?? the fact its happened two times now in the same week on different reloads means its something important.

can u try and shed some light on this.

thanks

regards

I'm wondering about myostatin myself. I recently had blood work done and tried to get myostatin tested but they forgot. E2 was 268 (Yikes!!) so I'm trying to get that tamed and going to retest that plus the myostatin as well. What would you do to counter it if it's high? Same question as Mockery I guess, since I'm struggling with the same kind of thing...

[mockery]

I'm wondering about myostatin myself. I recently had blood work done and tried to get myostatin tested but they forgot. E2 was 268 (Yikes!!) so I'm trying to get that tamed and going to retest that plus the myostatin as well. What would you do to counter it if it's high? Same question as Mockery I guess, since I'm struggling with the same kind of thing...

there has been talk that creatine "might" battle myostatin. its a newer find , i think it was discovered in 1993. as far as i know, coming off and running short cycles before the myostatin protein starts to develop. I guess ronnies system, increasing the gear and proper deloads are to confuse the protein from forming , but as Ron had stated in a earlier post on this page, maybe we are doing deloads wrong?

in any case, i cant eat this much food now, physically and cost wise... well i could in theory... i eat a lower carb diet, around 120 a day and 300+ and high animal fat protein during reloads, i guess i could increase carbs to 300-500... that may be the ticket. still again eating that much more and the cost of a already very clean strict diet now becomes a issue. lol

[Geejones]

Great info!

[Tony Two Toes]

Dope as ****

[Marc Angelo]

Excellent post. I have learned more with this post than ever.Thank you for taking your time

[deladude]

I'm prone to gyno but love what tren does for me. I was wondering what you would recommend for ai and a safe starting dose to work off till i get blood work done.
The cycle will consist of per week
1 gram test p
700mg tren
500mg deca (to help my joint pain)

I like stane but it hasn't helped much while on tren.
Thanks for your help

[Yellow]

Big Ron,
What is the best method of administering HCG EOD for getting best result in PCT? Sub-Q or IM?

I have been reading & researching that subcutaneous administration gives slower release and lower peak whereas intra-muscular administration gives faster acting and higher peak? Correct me if I am wrong
Also there is a difference in half-life : 3 days (72 hours) for Sub-Q injection and 1.5 days (33-36 hours) for IM injection.

What's your thought on this?

[Ronnie Rowland]

Hey Ronny,

first i'll start with my stats:
Age- 30
Height- 5'6" (167cm)
Weight: 82kgs (180lbs), during cycle
fat: around 16-17%

cycle history:
1- 500mg/wk test e with adex 0.5 EOD, typical pct
2- 500mg/wk test e, 30mg dbol, hcg 250iu 2x/wk, 1.25mg letro ED and typical pct (gained good results on this cycle)


current cycle:

1-4 30mg dbol
1-14 600mg/wk test e
1-12 400mg/wk deca
1-16 hcg 250iu 2x/wk
1-16 25mg aromasin ED
1-12 caber 0.5mg 2x/wk
4-14 HGH 1iu starting on 4th wk (just trying it out)

i did blood work prior to cycle and everything was all good then i jumped on cycle. I did another blood test on the 4th wk of the cycle, which am currently at and tests came back with:

Estradiol: 73 (11-44)
prolactin: <0.6 (3.46-19.4)
progesterone: 0.5 (<0.1-0.2)

now my questions are:
1- why is my progesterone high? is it because of the estrogen being high? It's due to the deca! or its from the HGH? gh at 1iu daily is not going to increase anything above IMO. or from the use of Minoxidol spray that i use to prevent hair loss? minoxidol would only decrease sex driveand increase estrogen by lowering dht and you need some dht to help counteract the side efects of estogen. DHT competes at the receptor level to some degree to help antagonize estrogen. [/B] or from the HCG? hcg increases production of estrogen in the testis and an anti-es is not going to help with that IMO!
2- how do i know my deca is legit from the values above? You have elevated progesterone levels then you know the deca is legit but to what extend I do not know because its a universal question.
3- from my knowledge caber lowers prolcatin ONLY, but i keep reading on this forum and hearing from some members on here that it reduces progesterone too! please comment on this To my knowledge caber only lowes prolactin levels. I think that your genetics are very prone to both test (estrogen increaser) and deca (progesterone increaser) and the slightest amount is all it takes. It's amazing how some can run cycles using anything and not even have to use an Anti-es while others are very sensitive. Androgens and cabergoline reduce prolactin, estrogen elevates it. Test increases prolactin due to its aromatization to estradiol. In order to prevent issues with prolactin , estrogen,and/or progesterone as much as possible, the first step is to reduce circulatory estrogen.[/B]above

cycle adjustments:
1- running letro at 1.25mg ED and will do blood work after 3-4 wks, but if my e2 crushes i will lower letro to 0.625 ed that's one of many options to try
2- run cabergoline 0.5mg 2x/wk or adjust dosage? try increasing the Cabergoline to .5mg (Mon Wed Fri)
3- lower test e to 500mg/wk and deca as is I would increase test to 750 mgs weekly, reduce deca to just 1cc weekly, and add in 50 mgs of proviron daily (a dht derivative)
4- stopped using dbol since i have noticed my body aromatases a lot when am on dbol D-bol can kill sex drive and send estrogen levels through the roof!

Please answer my questions and critisize anything on my cycle. I did my research, but eventually noticed a few topics here on how to lower progesterone levels When estrogen gets too high you can get high blood pressure/ headaches, erectile dysfunction, flushing of the face and upper chest, moody, and no morning libido. When estrogen gets too low you get brain fog, painful joints, lethargic, and will probably need cialis to get an erection. If you wake up with a morning erection things are good to go regarding estrogen/progesterone/prolactin. I personally suggest running a small dose of tren with test and some proviron rather than deca and so much letro. Never been a fan of deca or letro other than a small amount if needed for joint pain control or severe gyno and then only for short periods of time.
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[Harper09]

Hey guys!
i am 21, 6'2 and 185 pounds!
im looking to bulk up and cut.
does anyone have any good beginner steroid cylces for me?
(preferably non-injectable)

[MuscleInk]

Hey guys!
i am 21, 6'2 and 185 pounds!
im looking to bulk up and cut.
does anyone have any good beginner steroid cylces for me?
(preferably non-injectable)

Please refer to this link and read all the material before you proceed any further.

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...g-and-Steroids

[2fast]

Hello Ronny.

First i'll start with my stats:
Age- 21
Height- 171cm
Weight: 72kgs
Fat: around 13-15%

Its will be my first cycle.

1-8 50 mg every other day testosterone Propionate
1-* 30 mg/day(???) Dianabol (please tell me the dosage and week on which to end the reception)
*-8(9) 50mg/day stanozolol (please tell me for what week to start taking and to end the reception)

And what about PKT? I need it after this cycle?
Thank you very much to you!

[Ronnie Rowland]

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hey Ronnie.

this has happend twice now, The second reload about 3-4 weeks in i find that gradual weekly calorie increase to meet the needs of my anabolic growth phase no longer works, and both times now i find i hit a wall and even 500 calories increase is not enough. i am talking 2000+ increase to an already calorie surplus diet over night is need. this second time around i dropped my calories for 3 days to around 2-3 meals a day to see what would happen out of curiosity and lost all my water weight 6-8 lbs, by day three i was shredded and look like i was half way through my show prep. Whats the cause or need to jump my calories so high when small increases not to add to much fat work fine and then just STOP. is this myostatin? is this something else?? the fact its happened two times now in the same week on different reloads means its something important.

can u try and shed some light on this.
My opinion that you lose so much weight in only a few days is because the metabolism increases with the extra muscle mass gained using steroids and a lot of it is water weight as well. Also, you lose fat fast because steroids reduce fats storage by reducing the amount of insulin released in response to nutrient intake and they improve insulin sensitivity. Eating fewer small meals like you stated means releasing even less insulin (a fat storage hormone) daily because each time you eat some insulin is released. The lager the meal, the greater the amount of insulin is released. When steroids are being used they block a lipoprotein lipase (a body fat synthesizing hormone). The body reacts fast when you first start dieting. You always lose the most fat during the first 2 weeks of dieting down then fat loss slows down as the body begins to catch on. It gets harder and harder as you continue to diet!

The reason gains slow down after 8 weeks or so is a combination of things such as SHBG, IGF-LEVELS, CORTISOL, ESTROGEN, MYOSTATIN, ETC, that are antagonistic to the anabolic steroids dosages you are using. And perhaps most of all is due to the new metabolic limits placed on muscle cells using the same steroid dosage. Keep in mind that the closer you come to reaching your genetic muscle building potential the fewer gains will come which each subsequent cycle. This is why many say they gain the most size on their first cycle using only 500 mgs of high quality test per week. It's also important to note that gains are not made in a linear fashion as we advance but rather in small increments due to consistent steroid use, diet and training.

thanks

regards

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[Cronos]

Hey Ronnie, question for you. I've been stuck at around 185lbs at around 10% at a height of 5'7. Thing is, I've never really ran more than a gram to 1200mg total aas per week during my slingshot cycles and training. My diet is very good, as I eat 300g protein, cycle my carbs between low, medium and high days (I find if i don't do this and just keep carbs steady at say 300g/day, i will accumulate body fat when i try to gain size) and fats around 40-60g. As for training I utilise your slingshot approach, and have done so for the past couple years, changing it up here and there.

My plan is this to bust through this sticking point: I'm going to run some heavier dosages. After talking to a few pros and amateur competitors that have development beyond my own, they told me their cycle, and they're way higher than mine. So, my gameplan is to run 1200mg test, 600mg tren a.nd 600mg eq. I know this might sound like a lot, it does to me, but thats similar to what these are guys are doing to experience the kind of progress they are. Even other forums around the net advocate much higher dosages, but this forum seems to be on the conservative side, with not as many competitive pro bb ers.

So what do you think of my game plan??

p.s. I have run these compounds before, except for eq. Highest ive gone on test alone was 1000mg my last reload, and highest ive gone on tren was 525/wk, but that wasnt at the same time as the 1000 test, it was several months ago. Highest combined dosage ive ran per week was a combo of test/tren/mast which equaled out to 1225mg/wk

I'm rerally eager to hear your thoughts. I'm currently just cruising ish on 400sust and 22tren e

thanks!!!

[fineBody]

Ron!


Can you advice me how to create 2 phases cycle out of these products that i have?

I will take Danabol (through out the cycle) and PCT as a previous recommendation from you, so just put for me the injections together.

I have enough for more than 8 weeks of these products:

1- Testoviron Depot 250mg (100% legit)
2- Sustanon 250mg (100% legit)
3- Mastebolin 100mg (100% legit)
4- Boldebolin 250mg (not sure)
5- Nandrolone Deconate 2ml amp (not sure)


Thanks!

[Ronnie Rowland]

I'm wondering about myostatin myself. I recently had blood work done and tried to get myostatin tested but they forgot. E2 was 268 (Yikes!!) so I'm trying to get that tamed and going to retest that plus the myostatin as well. What would you do to counter it if it's high? Same question as Mockery I guess, since I'm struggling with the same kind of thing.. I would not dwell on Myostatin levels too much because genetic engineering like the Huge Cow we all saw in the movie "Bigger-Stronger-Faster" is the only true way to permanently inhibit Myostatin as it stands. The best you can do it take a break now and then by either going on HCG -(pct) or using about a half a cc (100 mgs of test-e or test-c) for 6 weeks. A Steroid, GH, Insulin combo is the best way to currently keep Myostatin levels in check as much as possible during reloads. I am not convinced any of these so-called Myostatin inhibitors being sold actually work. During the holidays is a great time to give your body a 6 week break to prime your body for future growth.

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[Steel Addict]

Hi Ronnie, I am doing Test- Cypionate cucle 500 mg/week. I am into fourth week of first reload. It is my first cycle. I came across this thread recently and have read pretty much all pages here. I just got HCG. The bottle says 10000 units and it came with 10ml sterile ject Diluent. I would to inject 250eod as mentioned by you. How do I figure out how much is 250 iu. Is it ok to use pins which I use for my test shots. Do i inject intramuscular or use it subcutaneous ? Please help me with this as I am already late to star HCG. Thanks

[The Titan99]

Hi Ronnie, I am doing Test- Cypionate cucle 500 mg/week. I am into fourth week of first reload. It is my first cycle. I came across this thread recently and have read pretty much all pages here. I just got HCG. The bottle says 10000 units and it came with 10ml sterile ject Diluent. I would to inject 250eod as mentioned by you. How do I figure out how much is 250 iu. Is it ok to use pins which I use for my test shots. Do i inject intramuscular or use it subcutaneous ? Please help me with this as I am already late to star HCG. Thanks

OK Man, you don't need Ron for this one, what you need is some 1 ml (or 1 cc - same thing) insulin syringes. Take all 10 ml of the bacteriostatic water and mix it with the 10,000 i.u.'s of HCG. Now, for each ml of water (10 ml, remember?) there will be 1000 i.u.'s of hcg. On your 1 ml insulin syringe fill it 1/4 of the way up - or 2.5 ml. It's probably going to have 10,20,30 etc on the syringe so you'd fill it half way between 20 and 30 and TA DA!! 250 i.u.'s. Don't sweat it man, everyone has trouble with that at first, you just have to think about it. I know what your thinking though, it's better to ask than to screw it up...and your right!! Good Luck!!

Oh, and just go sub q with it.

[measuretwicecutonce]

Ronnie,

After running 3 cycles in a row, with 2 2 week cruises in-between, how are receptors looking?

[Steel Addict]

Thanks Titan !!! whats the best area to pin HCG. I have seen videos of people injecting near belly button.

OK Man, you don't need Ron for this one, what you need is some 1 ml (or 1 cc - same thing) insulin syringes. Take all 10 ml of the bacteriostatic water and mix it with the 10,000 i.u.'s of HCG. Now, for each ml of water (10 ml, remember?) there will be 1000 i.u.'s of hcg. On your 1 ml insulin syringe fill it 1/4 of the way up - or 2.5 ml. It's probably going to have 10,20,30 etc on the syringe so you'd fill it half way between 20 and 30 and TA DA!! 250 i.u.'s. Don't sweat it man, everyone has trouble with that at first, you just have to think about it. I know what your thinking though, it's better to ask than to screw it up...and your right!! Good Luck!!

Oh, and just go sub q with it.

[Cronos]

Yup. A couple inches to the right or left of the belly button is a good spot

[kml999]

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Here is an update even though i missed your reply and didnt follow anything from it. What i did is run letro 2.5mg for 1 day and kept taking 1.25mg for 4 more days and did a blood test. FYI i did keep caber at 2x per week and surprizengly the results came back:

e2: 39 (11-44)
progesterone: 0.3 (0.1-0.2)

not related and wanted to mention that i cant run aromasin during cycle. my nipples go burning crazy thats after a few days from cycle since it cant keep up with the aromataze conversion, so i'm forced to go with letro as an AI. aromasin is great for me when used after cycle thats if i have e2 issues post cycle and sure prevents any sort of estrogen rebound. Have been following my body from doing numerous blood tests and reached to a point knowing the increase rate of my e2 during cycle too!

Minoxidol reduces DHT at the skin i believe?, but you made it sound as if it reduces DHT in the blood stream? i didnt test dht recently, but previous cycles as i noticed my DHT going up to ~1200 value when on a test e dbol cycle. Never used proviron before!

Getting similar flush on my whole body and thought it was a rash and came to conclusion its from the deca as i never encountered this during my test e and dbol cycles, but the problem gets perfectly fixed when i use anti-hestimine pills and one pill is enough to keep it away for almost a week so its not major i think. Dbol ruined my sex drive, but i am impressed how a test e/deca cycle actually turned me into a sex machine, thats even with a crushed e2. With the revealed blood tests earlier i was still getting a morning wood, great libido and always thinking about sex like 4-10 times a day.

running proviron is not an option in my book as i am currently loosing hair. Hence why i am using the Minoxidol spray and if you noticed me mentioning that my DHT level in previous cycles were high and a matter of a fact my DHT is 1048 (400-880) post cycle, so naturally i have high DHT and boldness is in the family so i am trying to be fair and do things in a balanced manner.

Another thing i do have tren E, but i'm hesitating if i should run both deca and tren together even though i know its possible, but i am frightened to do so. Would like to see what i can achieve using Deca as this is the first time to use it, but i hear i need atleast 14wks of usage before making a judgement. can i run both deca and tren e at the same time to some point and then drop the deca when knowing the tren e is kicking in? well something like a crossover? Its going to take a while for Tren E to build up and personally i prefer to use long estered hormones to have a better control on E2/prolcatin/progesterone.