Ideas for next contest/competition...

[dan991]

I'm close if you add those numbers together lol

THANK YOU... someone is at least realistic.... and I am with you on those numbers. How the fvck a cycle of Test C and Tren gives people this magical "I'm 7%" attitude is beyond me. I'm still waiting to find someone other than me that knows what hydrochlorothyizide is...... uh duh.

[lovbyts]

#4. Overall physical improvement (conditioning)

^^^ agreed

[Misery13]

I'm thinking The Conditioned Classic....

Different classes like...

1. Men's Natty
2. Men's Open
3. Women's Open

Feed back please and thank you. I'd also like to hear from the current Bulk Classic competitors and judges. I need 4 members to step forward and be dedicated judges.

That is all for now.

[--->>405<<---]

that sounds pretty good! can u define the term "conditioned" ?? lean, vascular, muscular, performance, strength??? what will be the qualifications?

[Misery13]

that sounds pretty good! can u define the term "conditioned" ?? lean, vascular, muscular, performance, strength??? what will be the qualifications?

I'm actually thinking all of the above.

[--->>405<<---]

thatd be good! i think performance would be interesting.. i dont know what capacity it would be measured? maybe something like LBM vs bench, squat, dead in some percentage form or measurable form?

also a 1mile run time would be interesting as well. of course all these factors would be fudgeable (i know its not a word ) so we would be on our honor.

just throwing ideas at u..

[kelkel]

Who does cardio! Its depressing!

Exactly what I've always said!

[kelkel]

I don't think strength should come into it. To complicated for remote participants IMHO. It should simply be improvement in conditioning from the start of the contest to it's end. Not necessarily the most cut as it's not a bodybuilding contest. Simply the most "improved contestant" is what I'm thinking.

We don't need to over complicate it, IMO.

[--->>405<<---]

^^ the only problem with that kel is the guys that are in pretty good shape now (like me ) are not gonna improve too much vs the lazy chubbys that sit around all day except when they go to the gym to lift!

[GirlyGymRat]

nice to see you including a ladies category!!!

ya know i would luv to participate if i am recovered from rotator cuff surgery i have always luv a challenge and i luv winning

I'm thinking The Conditioned Classic....

Different classes like...

1. Men's Natty
2. Men's Open
3. Women's Open

Feed back please and thank you. I'd also like to hear from the current Bulk Classic competitors and judges. I need 4 members to step forward and be dedicated judges.

That is all for now.

[Misery13]

Most improved start to finish.

Even though we will be trusting everyones word, but what if I require them to post there lift numbers and run/cardio times every Sunday???

[Misery13]

nice to see you including a ladies category!!!

ya know i would luv to participate if i am recovered from rotator cuff surgery i have always luv a challenge and i luv winning

There's always next time and you could be one the judges. Actually that would be great especially if there's a good turn out in the women's open class. What do you think?

[kelkel]

405 maybe catagories geared toward beginner, intermediate and advanced.....

[S&S_ShovelHead]

I don't think lift numbers should really be included because besides people being able to make shit up form can play a huge role in what you can lift for a given set.

[--->>405<<---]

i tell u, organizing an online contest presents many challenges!

its unfortunate to think we cant have certain events due to potential for dishonesty. i mean, if ur not honest, really whats the freaking point? what u won an online weightlifting contest because u lied? LOL.. oh stop the presses..

[Capebuffalo]

Anyone under 10 is full of shit! These are the same people that "lose" fat. YOU CANNOT LOSE FAT WITHOUT SURGERY! You can only shrink fat cells. On cycle- even worse cause you're replacing fat with water!. Do some research... once you have fat- you DO NOT LOSE IT... it shrinks. People being at 8% is a myth for most. You can only be 8% if you've never had more than 8%. IF 99% of the members on this forum, both on and off cycle went and did a full body scan.... they'd be sadly disappointed to find out they are hovering over 15%. This myth of seeing abs has got to get squashed. "I see abs- therefore I'm 7%" is absolute bullshit. I have abs- I'm near 20%!!!!

Hey numb nuts. Do you like the sound of your own voice. Wait that can't be it your typing.
What do you think my bf% is here? Shut up already

[jeromehauser]

I wanna play....

[dan991]

Hey numb nuts. Do you like the sound of your own voice. Wait that can't be it your typing.
What do you think my bf% is here? Shut up already

No- I'm tired of dudes coming on here claiming to be 5' "something" and weighing in at 200 lbs @ 7-8% body fat after some creatine, chicken, a muscle milk, some Anavar tabs, and 6 months in the gym....


Best guess: TOTAL body fat around 6-8ish %. That would include all adipose tissue.

However... I HIGHLY doubt you maintain that year round and got therefrom a single cycle of whatever......

[dan991]

I wanna play....

+1. Is there an official targeted start date for this contest regardless of what categories there are?

[GirlyGymRat]

There's always next time and you could be one the judges. Actually that would be great especially if there's a good turn out in the women's open class. What do you think?

Count me in

[Brick]

I like most overall improvement. Allows for all people, cutting or bulking or lean bulk, to participate.

[dan991]

I'm gonna ask for all photo's to have proof of date in the pic.....

[dan991]

^^ the only problem with that kel is the guys that are in pretty good shape now (like me ) are not gonna improve too much vs the lazy chubbys that sit around all day except when they go to the gym to lift!

Did you start that ab routine yet?

[Lunk1]

I would use KISS here! Seems like it's getting kind of complicated!

[--->>405<<---]

Anyone under 10 is full of shit! These are the same people that "lose" fat. YOU CANNOT LOSE FAT WITHOUT SURGERY! You can only shrink fat cells. On cycle- even worse cause you're replacing fat with water!. Do some research... once you have fat- you DO NOT LOSE IT... it shrinks. People being at 8% is a myth for most. You can only be 8% if you've never had more than 8%. IF 99% of the members on this forum, both on and off cycle went and did a full body scan.... they'd be sadly disappointed to find out they are hovering over 15%. This myth of seeing abs has got to get squashed. "I see abs- therefore I'm 7%" is absolute bullshit. I have abs- I'm near 20%!!!!

i guess im full of shit then dan? or was the BOD POD wrong and youre right! and my abs are not very visible there either..

[--->>405<<---]

Did you start that ab routine yet?

LOL.. not yet buddy. but i did think about it!

[dan991]

i guess im full of shit then dan? or was the BOD POD wrong and youre right! and my abs are not very visible there either..

I'm not talking about seasoned vets in that statement... geez.. explained it 3 times now. But.. yea; BOD POD is wrong. It can't count all adipose tissue......

[--->>405<<---]

I'm not talking about seasoned vets in that statement... geez.. explained it 3 times now. But.. yea; BOD POD is wrong. It can't count all adipose tissue......

hmm.. i cant comment on this because i simply do not know but would like an elaboration! from my understanding the bod pod does count total body fat including (but not limited to) essential fat between organs and ribs and all that good stuff!

[Lunk1]

I'm not talking about seasoned vets in that statement... geez.. explained it 3 times now. But.. yea; BOD POD is wrong. It can't count all adipose tissue......

At the end of the day...does it matter what BF% I or some method says I am? It's about how I look naked....who gives a shyt if some measuring technique says 7% or 12%. If you use the same methos each time then you can at least track improvement.

[dan991]

At the end of the day...does it matter what BF% I or some method says I am? It's about how I look naked....who gives a shyt if some measuring technique says 7% or 12%. If you use the same methos each time then you can at least track improvement.

Because everytime you ask someone to post stats when they are posting cycle questions: They are 5'2" 220 lbs with 7% body fat... I don't know how you look naked; post a pic.

[--->>405<<---]

At the end of the day...does it matter what BF% I or some method says I am? It's about how I look naked....who gives a shyt if some measuring technique says 7% or 12%. If you use the same methos each time then you can at least track improvement.

i agree but a small part of me really cares what that damn machine says! lol..

[Lunk1]

Because everytime you ask someone to post stats when they are posting cycle questions: They are 5'2" 220 lbs with 7% body fat... I don't know how you look naked; post a pic.

Then you would be tempted to buy me an $800 coat and I wouldn't feel right about it

Dude...get out of the lounge and spend a solid week in Q&A fielding questions...then bitch to me about ppl saying stupid shyt! Most ppl guess and have no clue. I figure I'm somewhere in the 20% neighborhood but I might be way off! Frankly I don't care! I know what my goal is and it's not based on a BF% number. Again...405 loves the bod pod. How true the measurment is, who knows. But it gives him a scale to use. He can see what kind of improvements he is making!

Honestly Dan, you have been lementing over this same subject for days and I am not sure why it is soooo friggin important to you!

[dan991]

hmm.. i cant comment on this because i simply do not know but would like an elaboration! from my understanding the bod pod does count total body fat including (but not limited to) essential fat between organs and ribs and all that good stuff!

There is adipose tissue (white or brown fat cells) in bone, in between muscle fibers, etc. Furthermore- once you have a fat cell; you always have it. It doesn't burn off; it shrinks. BOD POD uses air displacement to calculate body mass; how does air displacement discover how much of your bone marrow has fat? How does it calculate fat cells between muscle fibers?

As I stated- 10%. You're 9% is probably accurate EXCLUDING fat in bone marrow and such; which then puts you probably at 10% at least depending on your skeletal structure.

[Lunk1]

i agree but a small part of me really cares what that damn machine says! lol..

That's your OCD you freak!

[dan991]

Then you would be tempted to buy me an $800 coat and I wouldn't feel right about it

Dude...get out of the lounge and spend a solid week in Q&A fielding questions...then bitch to me about ppl saying stupid shyt! Most ppl guess and have no clue. I figure I'm somewhere in the 20% neighborhood but I might be way off! Frankly I don't care! I know what my goal is and it's not based on a BF% number. Again...405 loves the bod pod. How true the measurment is, who knows. But it gives him a scale to use. He can see what kind of improvements he is making!

Honestly Dan, you have been lementing over this same subject for days and I am not sure why it is soooo friggin important to you!

Because accuracy is key in being able to help each other. This is the internet; people actually trust what is stated here enough to dose based on an "unknown" persons opinion. Some dude comes on here and gives stats that are incorrect even with something simple like basic diet; his incorrect stats lead to an incorrect amount of calories, protien, etc. suggestions.

How do I help someone that is full of shit? You ask me for my "expertise" or opinion- but you lie about your stats or over estimate what you want to think it is.... That's why I don't spend much time in Q&A. I've been here for 8 years- I've learnt some things. I also learned that garbage in = garbage out for formulas.... so unless someone knows within somewhat accurate #'s where they are... I'm not getting involved.

[dan991]

AND... after spending 16+ years in the gym busting my ass; I'll be damned if I'm gonna keep my mouth shut when some 20 year old dude the same height as me comes in claiming to be 15+ pounds more than me at 8% body fat off one cycle..... I'm gonna call bullshit every time....

[Brick]

Two or three categories. Beginner and advanced or those two with intermediate

Also a woman's category or perhaps competing in an 'open' category. Men and woman and any level of fitness

[Lunk1]

Because accuracy is key in being able to help each other. This is the internet; people actually trust what is stated here enough to dose based on an "unknown" persons opinion. Some dude comes on here and gives stats that are incorrect even with something simple like basic diet; his incorrect stats lead to an incorrect amount of calories, protien, etc. suggestions.

How do I help someone that is full of shit? You ask me for my "expertise" or opinion- but you lie about your stats or over estimate what you want to think it is.... That's why I don't spend much time in Q&A. I've been here for 8 years- I've learnt some things. I also learned that garbage in = garbage out for formulas.... so unless someone knows within somewhat accurate #'s where they are... I'm not getting involved.

I think your expectation of information on the internet is a bit high...this will no doubt lead to dissapointment lol. You can only do the best with the info you are given. The reality is that every 35 y.o, 8% 235, 6'2" guy lifting for 15 years could ...in all actuality be 17, 25%, 275, 5'8" and never been to the gym.

It is what it is!

[Knockout_Power]

#4. Overall physical improvement (conditioning)

I like this ^^^... having been back training for the last 4 months, my goal would be to start a nice spring cut soon and Im sure others will as well, but it can be left open as far as "who attains their own set goal the best"

[Lunk1]

Two or three categories. Beginner and advanced or those two with intermediate

Also a woman's category or perhaps competing in an 'open' category. Men and woman and any level of fitness

I'd like to see a well run cut classic. There could be classes based on size and BF%.