I know what yo0u are saying metal and I am not arguing that taking certain steroids at certain doses will result in suppression vs. shutdown. Thats not the issue. I'm trying to find out what the hell the difference is between being shutdown and being shutdown HARD!

I keep seeing things like "Dude, Deca wiill shut ya down hard bro"! While the reality is...500mg EW of test will result in an equal amount of shutdown...100%!