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[energizer bunny]

bunny were here to help pal! and man that mustve been a long read going thru the whole thread! i have learned a ton and grown a lot in my dietary knowledge thats for sure! now the best part is i feel in control of my body fat% and if i do gain any itll be deliberate as opposed to before when i just basically "hoped" i wouldnt get fat!

i it was fairly long mate about 8 hours, but well worth it!.......bold above is exactlly what im looking for....i want to have the knowledge and comitment to change my physique.

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dont know mate. debating between cycling and not cycling. dont know if the risk is worth the reward. i have a decent physique for a regular guy now. i suppose i could add a bit more mass which i like but i havent given lean bulking a try yet especially wtih the new protocol i am on.

i will prob continue to cut to 8% and maintain it thru the summer to establish that body composition and then probably try my hand at the lean bulk without AAS and see how i fare. this new style of diet has a lot of potential i think..

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i it was fairly long mate about 8 hours, but well worth it!.......bold above is exactlly what im looking for....i want to have the knowledge and comitment to change my physique.

u can get that here. eventually from what i have learned fasting is an awesome protocol!!! it enables u to maintain a lean physique and still cheat here and there and also have large meals when u dont cheat due to the fact that u havent eaten all day. it is also suppose to help with insulin sensitivity and other hormonal things i dont quite understand fully but still reap the benefits of!

[energizer bunny]

u can get that here. eventually from what i have learned fasting is an awesome protocol!!! it enables u to maintain a lean physique and still cheat here and there and also have large meals when u dont cheat due to the fact that u havent eaten all day. it is also suppose to help with insulin sensitivity and other hormonal things i dont quite understand fully but still reap the benefits of!

Ive done quite a bit of reading on IF and it sounds like something i will try in the future......tho im going to follow pretty much your exact path i.e standard split (change ratios untill i get whats best for me) then when i hit 15% BF change up to carb cycling, then when i hit 10% change up to IF......the way you have done it seems to me the best way, because you now know when and what to do for BF% control.

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yeh its pretty cool to see it put like that. for me having lived thru the experience it was a growth process. it took me a year to get here. for u it took 8hrs!! pretty awesome and im glad to see this log pay off!

i dont run IF though. more ADF (alternate day fasting) combined with cycling carbs and i only EVER eat carbs pre workout on training days and have a little carbs on fasting day but not much..

[human project]

yeh its pretty cool to see it put like that. for me having lived thru the experience it was a growth process. it took me a year to get here. for u it took 8hrs!! pretty awesome and im glad to see this log pay off!

i dont run IF though. more ADF (alternate day fasting) combined with cycling carbs and i only EVER eat carbs pre workout on training days and have a little carbs on fasting day but not much..

Can you break down this poetical a little more.. Here is my current carb split.. 1lb potatoes 1.5cups of rice.... Would I be able to spread this amount over just those periods??

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whats ur workout sched look like? u cycling aas? cutting? cardio? stats?

[human project]

whats ur workout sched look like? u cycling aas? cutting? cardio? stats?

After seeing your log I started one of my own... Check it out no ones really following it yet or giving any advise but the accountability aspect makes it amazing...

[Back In Black]

Happy New Year buddy.

How's the fat levels? Still loosing? Have you suffered from any lose skin with all the fat loss so far?

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Happy new year!!

Bout to step up the diet in new phase. Will be posting. Prob 9.5% rite now.

No loose skin that ive noticed. Uve seen my pics. Will take a good on for avi if admin ever fixes them!

[Back In Black]

You do mean lose skin, not loose, right

[Soar]

I love loose skin lol

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You do mean lose skin, not loose, right

Funny fellow!! LOL

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Wow i just read ur other post and got it!! LMAO!!

I was at work til 0230 so a lik slow today! LOL

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Was wonderin why u askd me that! LOL

[Tron3219]

405, what's up bud! Have a good holiday season?

-TroN

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i did tron! u?

congrats on turning red! (i dont think ive talked to u since then)

[Tron3219]

i did tron! u?

congrats on turning red! (i dont think ive talked to u since then)

I did! Had a whole 2 weeks off! It was AMAZING! Lol

Ha I didn't even know I was red! Hahaha I have been out of the country and hasn't been on in a couple weeks. Thanks for bringing it to my attention haha

[bikeral]

405 my man. Still at it as usual. Hope you had a great holiday and new year.

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405 my man. Still at it as usual. Hope you had a great holiday and new year.

u know it al! likewise my man! hope u had a good one too bro! u gonna frequent a little more in the new year now that spring/summer is on the horizon??

[gonejeepin]

hey 405, its been a while, hows things? you cutting or bulking these days? looking good in the avi sir, hows that 405 bench goal coming along?

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hey man doing good! cutting (of course )

405 bench will be awhile i suppose! of course it doesnt hurt to have a good goal even if its a long way away!

[human project]

hey man doing good! cutting (of course )

405 bench will be awhile i suppose! of course it doesnt hurt to have a good goal even if its a long way away!

Yea btw where you at on your bench now? Did you loose any strength while dieting so hard??

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Yea btw where you at on your bench now? Did you loose any strength while dieting so hard??

still the same on bench pretty much. havent lost a lot of strength. im not done though. got a hard 4-6 weeks ahead of me probably starting a week from this monday.

188lbs 9.5%bf benching 295 x 5 reps as of right now. havent tried a 1 rep max lately.. right now it stands at 345lbs

[bikeral]

u know it al! likewise my man! hope u had a good one too bro! u gonna frequent a little more in the new year now that spring/summer is on the horizon??

Yep I'll be around. Need to catch up on all my friends logs.

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Yep I'll be around. Need to catch up on all my friends logs.

u got ur work cut out for u!

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im chasing u down Kel!

[bigsiv]

im chasing u down Kel!

Vascular it's looks great 405 well done!

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thx pal!

[Back In Black]

im chasing u down Kel!

Loving it. Is the vascularity 24/7 or just when you've had a certainb food/supplement? Or just the day after your 3100 cals?

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Loving it. Is the vascularity 24/7 or just when you've had a certainb food/supplement? Or just the day after your 3100 cals?

it seems to come and go. i dont pay a lot of attention. definitely when i introduce carbs into the diet after a low carb day! i cant wait to see what i look like when i get below 8%!

i also have vascularity in thighs, and a little on my stomach.. im sure itll become more pronounced as time goes on. i am definitely happier leaner and not as big vs not as lean and bigger! i like lean man, lean!

[GirlyGymRat]

soooooooooo true!!!! u lookin good 405...considering this is just bro science! LOL! i lost alot of weight since hanging out in the nutritional section....seems alot of other have too come to think of it....hmmmmm...interesting.....

it seems to come and go. i dont pay a lot of attention. definitely when i introduce carbs into the diet after a low carb day! i cant wait to see what i look like when i get below 8%!

i also have vascularity in thighs, and a little on my stomach.. im sure itll become more pronounced as time goes on. i am definitely happier leaner and not as big vs not as lean and bigger! i like lean man, lean!

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soooooooooo true!!!! u lookin good 405...considering this is just bro science! LOL! i lost alot of weight since hanging out in the nutritional section....seems alot of other have too come to think of it....hmmmmm...interesting.....

LMAO!! nail on the head girl!

[human project]

im chasing u down Kel!

Bro your lower the 9.5..... How you been getting tested?? Even the bod pod can be off several % with just a little air in your lungs....

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Bro your lower the 9.5..... How you been getting tested?? Even the bod pod can be off several % with just a little air in your lungs....

yeh BOD POD.. the thing that throws me off is my freaking abs suck! i need to work em more i suppose.

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a fair amount of difference in 38 days.. from @12-13% to 9-10% from 195 (ish) to 188(ish)

thought this was interesting. i look thinner than i feel! the first pic was with a pump and obviously the other pic was not (taken this am)

[RaginCajun]

Def can notice a difference

Look way leaner in the second one

The tan makes you look a lot bigger also

Great work by the way!

[RaginCajun]

are you still having cream in your coffee in the AM?

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are you still having cream in your coffee in the AM?

LOL.. u pay pretty good attention and ur mind is a steel trap! LOL

on fasting days no i dont have creamer in my coffee as it has 10cals per serving and would break the fast! i think thats the worst part of fasting! i can deal with no food for 21-24 hrs but dont take away my french vanilla creamer dammit! LOL

[RaginCajun]

LOL.. u pay pretty good attention and ur mind is a steel trap! LOL

on fasting days no i dont have creamer in my coffee as it has 10cals per serving and would break the fast! i think thats the worst part of fasting! i can deal with no food for 21-24 hrs but dont take away my french vanilla creamer dammit! LOL

that's what i thought!

def like a steel trap! when i use it!

can't wait to see how that cycle treats you!