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[briansvk]

Hi Ronnie.

I have read your threads about slingshot training and I am really interested in trying these principles during my next offseason. On 13.4.2013 I have national competition here and next year will be last junior year for me so I want to qualify for Europe or World championship 2014. Hopefully slingshot training will help me to achieve this. But I have few questions I have to ask, because I do not fully understand some principnes.

Starting with the training. Last year I have been training 3+1 so 3 days training with 1 day rest. During two of these three day "training units" I trainer full body, but chest, delts and back has been trained twice, arms and legs once. This is because I have very good genetics for arms and legs, but lacking chest and back and this principle brought results for me, so may I use similar principle for slingshot?

For example: legs, chest+back, delts, free day, chest+back, delts, arms, free day, repeat.

During 8 week RELOAD phase I would train 2 heavy exercise with 4 working sets (6-8 reps.) and one lighter exercise (10-15 reps.) for each muscle group. Afterwards during DELOAD phase the split remains the same, but I would reduce training volume to two exercise with 3 sets each, one heavy one lighter for each muscle group. How does this sound so far?

Ok lets move on... supplementation and AS:

Talking about supplements I am using whey protein (with added maltodextrin after training), glutamine and BCAAs all year long. Vitamines and minerals are added if needed.

AS:

last year I did according to principle heavy cycle and bridging. Example is here: http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...es-in-between) I think you have seen this before.

I would like to edit this to match slingshot principles. But the main question I have here is: If I will be using for example Test E with Boldenone (Equipoise) or trenbolone hexa, which all are long esters.. How do I reduce the AS use during the DELOAD phase?

For example I will be using 1g Test E/week (this will be base) with 500mg EQ/week for 8 weeks as RELOAD phase. Than the DELOAD come, so I should reduce AS use for example to 500mg test E/week only... But will this have ANY effect at all? Speaking of long esters, so the levels will hardly drop during those 2 DELOAD weeks. Or am I getting something wrong?

Or, to get full shocking effect for the body for the next RELOAD I will bring test back UP to 1g/week and replace second ester for example with tren hexa? Or Deca? Would it be any better comparing to continue as previous reload with 1g Test E/week with 500mg EQ/week for another 8 weeks?

I totally understand how this works with short esters or orals for example 1g test E as base with TREN ace or something during reload and drop to 500mg test E for deload, so the short esters will be cleared from body in 2-3 days and the true nature of deload will be accomplished. But the long esters confuse me.

And last question.. Would it be a good idea to run test E for 1g/week during reload and 500 or 400mg/week during deload all year long? Or would it be better approach to run for example like this:

1st reload:
1g/week test E
500mg/week EQ

1st deload
400mg/week test E

2nd reload
test E back to 1g/week
500mg/week Tren ace

2nd deload
50mg test prop/EOD

3rd reload
100mg test prop/EOD
winstrol or drostanolone or primobolan or something milder

3rd deload
50mg test prop/EOD

4th reload
1g/week test E again or greater doses again

My basic idea in this principle would be to let the body rest a bit for one reload/deload round from strong anabolics. And repeat this for example like I wrote 2 heavy reload/deload cycles following one milder. What do you think about this. Thanks a lot for your opinion.

[Ronnie Rowland]

[QUOTE=briansvk;6350656]Hi Ronnie.

I have read your threads about slingshot training and I am really interested in trying these principles during my next offseason. On 13.4.2013 I have national competition here and next year will be last junior year for me so I want to qualify for Europe or World championship 2014. Hopefully slingshot training will help me to achieve this. But I have few questions I have to ask, because I do not fully understand some principnes.

Starting with the training. Last year I have been training 3+1 so 3 days training with 1 day rest. During two of these three day "training units" I trainer full body, but chest, delts and back has been trained twice, arms and legs once. This is because I have very good genetics for arms and legs, but lacking chest and back and this principle brought results for me, so may I use similar principle for slingshot? Yes you can! Some people find that training their weak areas respond best to training them very intense only once a week, while others do best training their weak areas twice a week. It's an individualistic matter.

For example: legs, chest+back, delts, free day, chest+back, delts, arms, free day, repeat.

During 8 week RELOAD phase I would train 2 heavy exercise with 4 working sets (6-8 reps.) and one lighter exercise (10-15 reps.) for each muscle group. Afterwards during DELOAD phase the split remains the same, but I would reduce training volume to two exercise with 3 sets each, one heavy one lighter for each muscle group. How does this sound so far? If you are doing twice a week muscle group training, I would not exceed over 6 work sets per workout for muscle groups like the biceps,triceps, quads, calves, hams and chest. Delts and back are a little different. For exampe you have back width muscles which could be compared to the quads and back thickness muscles that could be compared to the hamstrings. So for back you can do a total of 6 sets for lat width and 6 sets for lat thickness twice a week. That's a total of 24 sets for lats weekly. However, this can cause over-training for some and more is not always better. I also seperate the anterior and medial head of the delts from the rear delts. The reason being is when you do exercises like dumbbell shoulder preses you are working both the front and side heads of the delts (more front than the sides). And of course lateral raises work the side head only. The rear head only gets worked with rows and reverse flyes and I like to seperate those areas. You also have to be careful not to over-train your shoulders to prevent rotator cuff injury. A training split like 2 days on/1 day off or 3 days on/2 days off will help prevent over-training better than 3 days on/1 day off.

Ok lets move on... supplementation and AS:

Talking about supplements I am using whey protein (with added maltodextrin after training), glutamine and BCAAs all year long. Vitamines and minerals are added if needed.

AS:

last year I did according to principle heavy cycle and bridging. Example is here: http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...es-in-between) I think you have seen this before.

I would like to edit this to match slingshot principles. But the main question I have here is: If I will be using for example Test E with Boldenone (Equipoise) or trenbolone hexa, which all are long esters.. How do I reduce the AS use during the DELOAD phase? Just back off to 250 mgs of test-e weekly for those two weeks.

For example I will be using 1g Test E/week (this will be base) with 500mg EQ/week for 8 weeks as RELOAD phase. You desperately need to add tren-e in addition to test-e and eq if you want to compete at a national level. Than the DELOAD come, so I should reduce AS use for example to 500mg test E/week only... But will this have ANY effect at all? yes! Speaking of long esters, so the levels will hardly drop during those 2 DELOAD weeks. Or am I getting something wrong?

Or, to get full shocking effect for the body for the next RELOAD I will bring test back UP to 1g/week and replace second ester for example with tren hexa? Or Deca? Would it be any better comparing to continue as previous reload with 1g Test E/week with 500mg EQ/week for another 8 weeks? 1 gram of test, 500 mgs of eq and 300 mgs of tren-e weekly is a solid first reload cycle. A solid second cycle is 1 gram of test, 1 gram of eq and 500 mgs of tren. I would also recommend adding 300 mgs of masterone weekly to each reload in order to keep estogen levels lower.
I totally understand how this works with short esters or orals for example 1g test E as base with TREN ace or something during reload and drop to 500mg test E for deload, so the short esters will be cleared from body in 2-3 days and the true nature of deload will be accomplished. But the long esters confuse me. Okay, you need to understand that long acting esters kick in just as fast as short acting esters but they just don't peak as high upfront. You don't want complete clearance of anabolics during deloads as it's too much hormonal fluctuation-hence causing anxiety, depression, etc.
And last question.. Would it be a good idea to run test E for 1g/week during reload and 500 or 400mg/week during deload all year long? Or would it be better approach to run for example like this: [B]If you try to micro manage too much it's not beneficial. Honestly, if you are trying to compete at a natitonal level, then your dosages are going to have to be high enough on the reload to dictate using 300-500 mgs of test when deloading. The cycles you have listed are fine for recreational bodybuilders but won't get you to the nationals and do well IMO. Most run TEST/TREN/D-BOL OR ANDROL AT HIGH DOSES TO GAIN SIZE. The next step is GH then SLIN.[/B].

1st reload:
1g/week test E
500mg/week EQ

1st deload
400mg/week test E

2nd reload
test E back to 1g/week
500mg/week Tren ace

2nd deload
50mg test prop/EOD

3rd reload
100mg test prop/EOD
winstrol or drostanolone or primobolan or something milder

3rd deload
50mg test prop/EOD

4th reload
1g/week test E again or greater doses again

My basic idea in this principle would be to let the body rest a bit for one reload/deload round from strong anabolics. And repeat this for example like I wrote 2 heavy reload/deload cycles following one milder. What do you think about this. Thanks a lot for your opinion. I woud keep it simple and reload hard and deload with only 250 mgs of test if you use low dosed reloads or use 500 mgs of test if you reload using high doses of test,eq, and tren![/QUOTE]above

[briansvk]

For example I will be using 1g Test E/week (this will be base) with 500mg EQ/week for 8 weeks as RELOAD phase. You desperately need to add tren-e in addition to test-e and eq if you want to compete at a national level.

Or, to get full shocking effect for the body for the next RELOAD I will bring test back UP to 1g/week and replace second ester for example with tren hexa? Or Deca? Would it be any better comparing to continue as previous reload with 1g Test E/week with 500mg EQ/week for another 8 weeks? 1 gram of test, 500 mgs of eq and 300 mgs of tren-e weekly is a solid first reload cycle. A solid second cycle is 1 gram of test, 1 gram of eq and 500 mgs of tren. I would also recommend adding 300 mgs of masterone weekly to each reload in order to keep estogen levels lower.

And last question.. Would it be a good idea to run test E for 1g/week during reload and 500 or 400mg/week during deload all year long? Or would it be better approach to run for example like this: If you try to micro manage too much it's not beneficial. Honestly, if you are trying to compete at a natitonal level, then your dosages are going to have to be high enough on the reload to dictate using 300-500 mgs of test when deloading. The cycles you have listed are fine for recreational bodybuilders but won't get you to the nationals and do well IMO. Most run TEST/TREN/D-BOL OR ANDROL AT HIGH DOSES TO GAIN SIZE. The next step is GH then SLIN..

My basic idea in this principle would be to let the body rest a bit for one reload/deload round from strong anabolics. And repeat this for example like I wrote 2 heavy reload/deload cycles following one milder. What do you think about this. Thanks a lot for your opinion. I woud keep it simple and reload hard and deload with only 250 mgs of test if you use low dosed reloads or use 500 mgs of test if you reload using high doses of test,eq, and tren!

above

All right, so if I got this right...

According to this principle it is totally all right to run lets say 1g-1,5g/week of test ALL YEAR LONG? With 500mg-1g EQ + some Tren or drostanolone... Of course with deload breaks every 8 weeks for 2 weeks... ??? There is no need to drop test to lower doses for more than two weeks? Wont the body adapt to this dose and respond with more sides and less muscle building effect? Should the accompanying drugs be changes at least every two reloads? Or how often? Above you wrote an example for first and second reload, so third should contain EQ/tren again or it is better to switch? I am a little bit concerned about sides - running tren so long etc.. (maybe it is not a problem, I just want statement from experienced person ).

Another question... Slin usage.. During bulking reloads it is clear, but should slin be usen during deloads? Or it should be omitted during deloads?

[The Titan99]

Got it. Thanks alot. Am implementing your plan immediately.

[Ronnie Rowland]

[QUOTE=briansvk;6370838]All right, so if I got this right...

According to this principle it is totally all right to run lets say 1g-1,5g/week of test ALL YEAR LONG? With 500mg-1g EQ + some Tren or drostanolone... Of course with deload breaks every 8 weeks for 2 weeks... ??? There is no need to drop test to lower doses for more than two weeks? Wont the body adapt to this dose and respond with more sides and less muscle building effect? 2 weeks is enough. Yo-Yoing off and on is hard on your immune, endocrine system, mind, joints, etc. Only go off for longer than 2 weeks every 6 months. 6 weeks off evey 6 months ia a good plan IMO for national level competitors! Should the accompanying drugs be changes at least every two reloads? Not really because consistency with anabolics, training and nutrition are what counts most,but I feel it's good practice to alternate between cycles of HIGH TEST/LOW TREN and HIGH TREN/LOW TEST given you can handle the side effects of high tren. Both drugs have their pros and cons! Or how often? Above you wrote an example for first and second reload, so third should contain EQ/tren again or it is better to switch? I am a little bit concerned about sides - running tren so long etc.. (maybe it is not a problem, I just want statement from experienced person )Tren, like Test can be used year round. After 6 months I would back off to 1/2cc of test e or c once a week and possibly keep a 1/2cc tren e with it to reset myostatin levels, etc. It's the Orals I would be concerned with so use them at the lowest dosage possible and use then every other reload and mostly when prepping for a show. Another thing is how your body does on tren verses test. Some do better using high amounts of test almost year round but can only handle small dosages of tren. Likewise, some do better using high dosages of tren almost year round and keep their test at small amounts-such as 1/2 to 1cc weekly. On occasion some reload using both high dosages of test and tren and just suffer through more side effects. It's going to be up to you to find out which scenario works best for your particular body chemistry. Take the route that produces the least sides. It's hard to beat test and tren for safe gains. Throw in some Masterone or proviron for estrogen control and to help release more "free test" and you will do better. Not a fan of running eq year round unless your hematocrit levels remain in check.





Another question... Slin usage.. During bulking reloads it is clear, but should slin be usen during deloads? Or it should be omitted during deloads? Insulin should be dropped during deloads! But, I would keep GH in all year round if you could afford it.[/QUOTE]Above