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What?Originally Posted by krugerr
I'm just trying to create the perfect Universal Soldier. Why do you think i'm guinea pigging myself with all this shit and trying to become a doctor?
When I graduate, I will found a brand new biotech company and I WILL create the perfect bio weapon.
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hells yes, $13 for 5 for me, + scales + a few grams of Melatonin for my Brother = $ 65shipped.
Wanted to make sure the supplier is legit before i buy heaps.
Pretty sure ill end up will all three brothers and old lady taking it if it is as good as reported!
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Lol, good point.
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I haven't said anything to the gf yet about it.
Any idea how I can convince her to take it?
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Yeah just tell her to read this thread!
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what he said. whats her opinion on steroids?
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She's fine with it as long as it doesn't affect me and make me an asshole which it doesn't.
Woman don't know how to read. They follow recipes through picture books and learn through the passing down of stories (except GGR)
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Do your own research, until your confident that you can explain it yourself. have a few things printed off and highlighted RE: questions that she is bound to ask.
My old lady is open to trying anything. The main brother that i want to get it on is 13, has severe anxiety issues, wont even leave the premises with anyone but myself, stemming from Parents divorce 5+years ago.
HAHAHAHAHA ^^
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Just recieved my 3 little packets of noopept 15g total and my large packet of cholorine 500g. Will start tonight.
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LMAO!!!!! This is very true!
If you're going to start it at night, pay attention to anything you might experience sleep-wise, like if you get better sleep, or have more vivid dreams, or wake up more energized, etc. I believe that Noopept exhibits a very steady rate of effect over time, much like AAS but I'm curious to see if there might be even an acute difference in administering it at night before bed compared to the morning or during the day
And I REEEEEAALY hope you got Choline and not Chlorine, I don't think i'd want to be ingesting the latter. :P
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mine is in the mail yay wut a pain to find a good mg scale
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And I REEEEEAALY hope you got Choline and not Chlorine, I don't think i'd want to be ingesting the latter. :P[/QUOTE]
Lol, Chlorine on its own might make you see vivid visions and dreams before you see the light at the end of the tunnel.
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ive ingested chlorine bleach before....dont ask... haha
was not fun at all...AT ALL!!!
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I watched a guy smoke a cigarette that was soaked in bleach then dried...
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If nothing else it should make my teeth whiter.
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This made me feel sick. I hate smoking at the best of times.
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LOG UPDATE:
8:00am this morning - took 30mg of Noopept orally after my first meal.
10:50am this morning - took 30mg of Noopept orally just prior to my second meal. I ALSO took an additional 30mg immediately afterwards SUBLINGUALLY. I scooped out the powder, put it onto the scale, and then dumped the powder under my tongue and let it sit there for about 5 - 10 minutes while I prepared my food. It was kind of annoying letting it sit under the tongue like that because the very bitter/rancid taste of the powder started seeping out onto my tongue. Regardless, I let it sit sublingually as long as possible before I started eating.
11:20am - Noticed some immediate effects on motivation, wakefulness, and positive thoughts. More immediately than when normally administering Noopept orally. Feels almost like what Adderall feels like. Nowhere near the same intensity, but it's definitely there... increased motivation, positivity, wakefulness. I'm loving it. Thoughts are just flowing.
It is now 11:30 and i'm on a roll feeling great right now. This is definitely not a placebo effect and I have NOT taken my Adderall today. Keep in mind that my total dose for today is now 90mg (due to the extra sublingual 30mg dose) instead of my usual 60mg/day. I have yet to determine if this more immediate kick-in and increased intensity of effects is more so the result of a total increase in dosage, or if it is due more so to the sublingual administration. The only way to know this for sure is to administer ALL doses sublingually one day (or two days, just to see).
Overall, i'm still experiencing all of the positive benefits from Noopept and they keep increasing daily. I just can't stop loving the effect it has on daily energy levels when waking up in the morning. It makes me feel like my sleep has been incredible the night before. It really has improved it by a massive amount, so much so that Trensomnia is no longer an issue!!!!
Everypne here must understand that the use of Noopept and the resulting effects come from a steady build-up of neurotrophic factors. You will not feel anything immediately. You may not even feel anything for days (and it is all dose dependent as well. Noopept's effects take on increasing intensity as time on the drug increases. This means long-term Noopept use will Furthermore, everything I have read indicates that after terminating use of Noopept, it leaves lasting changes. I like to compare Noopept's increase of BDNF and NGF (http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19240853) to work like HGH, but for the brain. It encourages neurogenesis and much more. It is completely unlike any other Nootropic out there. I consider myself lucky to have had found and to be able to obtain this compound.
There are immediate Nootropic effects from Noopept, but there is also a lasting change to the brain. I am under the belief that it really promotes neurogenesis and other similar effects such as increasing Acetylcholine pathway efficiency. A lot of people say that a tolerance will build from Noopept, but I absolutely thing that is WRONG, as I believe the 'tolerance' people speak of is instead the result you and your mind becoming more accustomed to the new lasting effects of Noopept on the brain. In other words, Noopept does not lose its effects over time but merely just becomes less noticeable as you become accustomed to it. As the days go by I have noticed increasing effects as previously mentioned. Direct effects may not be 100% noticeable all of the time as time goes on, but its effects linger and build up, and this becomes very noticeable if you were to compaqre your mindset and how efficiently your brain works now compared to before starting Noopept. I completely believe that this is the result of a build-up of neurotrophic factors (NGF/BDNF) in the brain.
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Another great update. I don't think I can wait the next 7 days for delivery!! I'm
Getting tempted to order some from a UK source with next day delivery!
/hides credit card/
-Krugerr
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Holy shit, music sounds incredible right now. IN-FVCKING-CREDIBLE.
Currently listening to this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nvRd4xgEWbw
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Do you ever find yourself listening to songs on repeat?
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All the time, even before I ever started Noopept. I normally would listen to a song I really enjoy on constant repeat until I get sick of it and move on to another.
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How does the Fresh Prince of Bel Aire intro song sound?
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i should have mine Tuesday then i will take over the world hahahaha
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Oh shit it sounds incredible now! But if i'm on Ambien.... OMGZWAFFLEZ!
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LOG UPDATE:
Did a back and biceps workout today:
- FVCKING INCREDIBLE CONCENTRATION!!!!
- AMAZING MUSCULAR CONTRACTIONS!!!!
- I WAS SO HAPPY DURING MY WORKOUT I HAD A SUPER SMILE ON MY FACE THE WHOLE TIME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! EVEN DURING 365 LB. DEADLIFTS!
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I know your friend would love to hear it. Again
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Really now you're getting my intrest
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Here's what I have stuck on repeat
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=rQf_9oPjiYg
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Oh here we go again... Hope you went to bed this time. I will check the rabbit hole post.
Since I started the Noopept 3 days ago I have not taken any ambien and I am having noticeably better sleep than I have had in a long time. Almost to good, I keep wanting to take a nap ever few hours but I am still playing catch up from no sleep for several weeks.
I cant say I have noticed any huge focus increase so far but this is my 1st day back to work so we shall see.
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Just wait, give Noopept 7 - 14 days (possibly more for some people and depending on dose) for effect.
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LOG UPDATE:
Took my first two doses today orally (30mg and 30mg respectively), then decided once again to do a 3rd dose sublingually - this time, 15mg instead of 30mg under the tongue. Let it rest there under the tongue to totally dissolve, and I am now feeling it hit hard just like it did yesterday.
If Noopept is not working for you (or not working for you fast enough) orally, try doing this sublingually. It will taste like shit as it sits there under your tongue but you should feel something within 15 - 30 minutes of sublingual administration.
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By the way, here is a very interesting read on Noopept from someone on another forum, everyone should read this:
Well guys, this is exactly what i've been saying thus far. Noopept is not an immediate-effect drug. It is very much like AAS. Nobody experiences gains in the first week or two within starting their cycle!Nootropics enact exceedingly subtle changes on the human experience. These are not drugs like cocaine and methamphetamine, opiates or even caffeine, whose effects are felt to the enth degree. These drugs do not get you high, they do not give you a buzz, they don't make you something you're not, they are an entirely other animal. (and I speak of course only of true nootropics, which are few and far between, there are plenty of very popular supplements out there that have very noticeable effects, these I am not referencing.)
I am in the school of thought that there is no such thing as a non-responder to popular nootropics like piracetam, but instead it is a problem of perception and subjectivity, its looking for the wrong things, its an expectation of profound change, no work, and instant results. Iv'e read far too many posts by users who don't “feel” anything from a racetam, as if they expect to take some magic pill that will make them superhuman, as if they were taking nzt, and when these expectations are not met through extension, the compound fails to work at all. I'm sure there are individuals who respond much better to racetams then others, there have been times where a large dose of piracetam has made me feel like I just smoked half a joint, with no anxiety or paranoia. But this is not the norm, and although you may not feel something, this substance is still making changes to you physiologically, whether you are capable of perceiving it or not, there is great benefit still to be had.
To illustrate this point, and also to elucidate how I personally gauge the efficacy subjectively of these compounds, i'll talk a little about my recent experience with noopept, which I had just begun trialing this week.
I have been taking noopept for five days now, and the effects have been profound, HOWEVER, I FEEL exactly the same as I did prior to using noopept. It is very important prior to delving into any of these substances that you have a firm understanding of your minds baseline state. How you act and think on any normal day, devoid of nootropics or supplements. You need to be very in tune with your own body, and how it naturally operates, so you have something to compare it to, something more then an immediate body feeling. It is important that while you are trialing a new noot, and also when you are not, that you regularly assess your state of mind, the way in which you perceive things, the kind of thoughts you normally have, the kind of feelings you usually have, you're approach behavior, the manner in which you converse, how sexual you are, how intuitive you are, anything you can think of. With all that in mind, this is what I have noticed thus far on my trial of noopept. The effects are extremely subtle. There is no feeling involved, if I did not have such a good understanding of how I operated on a day to day basis without noopept, I can definitely see how I could think I was having no reaction at all, and I think a lot of people do this, looking for something huge, something glaringly different. But its all about the nuances. One thing I have noticed is a greater number of depersonalization occurrences. Of which I have always attributed to higher order thought. I find that when you are depersonalized, you have a much greater understanding of REALITY, and the puzzle piece that you are fitting in to it. Depersonalization occurs a lot in depressed people, who have been shown to have a much more realistic view of the world around them, which I find to be incredibly useful, if it weren't for the heavy burden of depression itself. Which is why i'm so pleasantly surprised when my mind finds itself depersonalized whilst in an elevated mood state, or even simply baseline. It is as if the world has slowed down, iv'e disconnected my self from it, and i'm able to view everything like I were a child again. Everything becomes endlessly fascinating, but unlike a child, I now have a mind developed enough to truly appreciate and better understand all the miraculous things around me. I become distinctly aware that I exist, and that everything exists, and just how incredible that little fact is. And just the fact that something exists, in this state, makes it incredible to me. I was sitting on a wooden bench in my front yard today smoking a cigarette, when this feeling struck me. I had the recurring thought, and feeling, that I exist, and that is amazing, and I started to look around at everything around me with new eyes. I looked at the old tree in front of me, I analyzed its bark, and the sediment it had build up. I looked at the insect husks hooked to the outside of the tree, its position in the ground, I thought about its age, and how it has watched this area change for decades, or more. I watched an ant intently on the table next to me, finding tiny scraps of food, carrying them to the edge of the table, and dropping them off. I thought about the mind of an ant, the hive mind, its means of communication, locomotion. I wondered what it would be like to perceive the world as an ant does, and knew that I would never know, that there is no way for me to ever understand that perception. I watched a middle aged mother walk by with her baby in a stroller and pondered what she may have looked like as a little girl, or as a high school student. I contemplated her socioeconomic status, what events may have occurred in her life to forge the way she looked and acted today, and how different she could have been had she had a different life. I was very much in the moment, and noopept seems to do that. I can easily see myself sitting on that bench instead, with my eyes metaphorically closed, entirely inside my mind, thinking of my problems, what to have for dinner, work, relationships, sensory input null and void, bland. However sitting on that bench, I didn't feel any different then any other day, I was me, as I always have been, but my mind chose to think about different things. Which isn't to say I don't think about these things from time to time, reality to me has always been the most fascinating thing, but I let other things drown it out all the more often. I have moments like this much more often on noopept, whether it be for a few seconds, or a few hours, I make note of it.
There is no mood elevation that I can tell from noopept, but moreso a mood stabilizing effect. I ruminate much less about depressing things, but also am not amped up and manic, i'm just always cool, collected and happy or neutral. There is nothing to get upset about. Iv'e always had great control over my temper, healthy or not, i'm a master at bottling up my anger and brushing it off. Noopept seems to make me more keenly aware of the hierarchy of things, that is to say, of just how trivial some things are in the grand scheme of things. That so many things people get angry about every day are so petty, temporary, unimportant and transient, and that allows me to elevate myself above the anger, and feel contended and in control, in oppose to the feeling of bottling it up.
Though I do not feel anxious particularly around people, I do have problems talking to them from time to time. I'm the kind of individual who does not value small talk. I engage in it frequently, but I often don't start the conversation. I hate the kinds of things people talk about on a day to day basis. I don't want to talk about things, or people, I want to talk about ideas, and concepts, something important. Not feeling comfortable beginning conversations about the kinds of things im interested in, I’ve reduced almost my whole conversational repertoire to witty banter and sarcasm, which gets me by just fine, I have no problem making friends, and Iv'e had countless people tell me in my life I should be a stand up comedian, so I guess ive honed my deflectitory defense mechanism quite well over the years. After all, everyone likes the funny guy. But I simply never open up to any body. Noopept definitely improves my approach behavior. I find myself much more willing to just walk up to someone and start a conversation. I feel the same, I have just noted that I have become much more likely to blurt out seinfeldesque observations about every day life that seem to lead to some interesting conversation, of which ive been able to commentate endlessly about. And I find myself moderately more comfortable talking about myself in turn. I feel a slightly greater sense of connectedness to other people, which is comforting. Also when I do speak, I speak with much greater force, there is no hesitation or softening of my voice, it feels as if I have utter confidence in what it is that I am saying.
Music is moderately more enjoyable, it isn't a euphoric WOW feeling like others have reported, or that I have felt on occasion with piracetam, but I more greatly appreciate the nuances of the song, on the instrumental side, and the lyrical side. Classical music is also a joy to listen to on noopept. I find myself skipping far less songs on pandora, and having a greater appreciation for varying genres of music and what they individually bring to the table.
Smell also appears to be moderately enhanced. I can much more easily smell my own cigarette sticking to my skin, the smell of food wafting out of a restaurant, the smell of grass in my yard, the smell of wet bark from a meter or more away, among many other things.
To bring this to a close I would just like to say for those of you getting into noots for the first time, or even just trying a new one, or have given up on a substance all together, just keep a close eye on the most unexpected of things. These substances are very subtle and present themselves often only in minor changes in your perception. The kinds of thoughts your having, you're proclivity to watch a bird fly across the sky overhead, or to analyze the architecture of a building you pass by every day, the kinds of things you're mind chooses to focus on and so much more. They bring things that are normally in the background, carelessly filtered through your subconscious to the foreground, and you may not realize that’s whats going on, its just a thought, and you might not give it any. But then again, this is also just my subjective perception of these substances, and I might be totally wrong, skewed by my own biases. As for noopept, I would highly recommend it. Its wonderful drug for expanding consciousness and enjoying in the little things. Its been a joy thus far.
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Tracking says package has been processed and left the states on route to Canada. Just has to be processed through Canadian customs now!
I'd say Wed or thur!!!
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Excellent log Atomini, I read this thread more than any other on this forum.
Keep it up bro, your providing valuable information to us NoopeptOLICS, lol
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Just letting everyone here know that tomorrow I am going to attempt sublingual dosing for ALL doses. Note that I will also be using Adderall tomorrow (I do not take it every day - only when I need it). So, it will be more difficult for me to distinguish the difference in effects with the Adderall interfering. However, I will the day after tomorrow sublingually dose everything again and I won't be taking my Adderall on that day, so we will see.
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My update is that I'm upping my dosage to 90mg a day. Had 30mg in the morning, 30mg inn the afternoon and 30mg before bed.
I'm now on 60mg and still no effect. Note that my stuff is 10mg capsules ATM.
If I don't feel anything by the end of this week on 90mg a day then I'm ordering raw powder from somewhere else as I think my stuff might be bunk. I'm sure on 90mg a day I should be feeling something at least. (1.5 weeks in total by end of this week).
Do you suggest I take the 90mg in 1 hit or space it out as highlighted above?
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I'm only using 40mg+ a day split 2x a day. From day one I noticed better sleep. I have gone 5 days without any sleep aids for the first time in ???? a long time. Im getting longer sleep and able to go back to sleep right away after waking during the night to use the restroom or eat where before I would be up for 1-2hrs.
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I had a feeling bulknutrient didnt seem to add up. I will be going ebay to by my raw powder man, i think you might of been stung by them.
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Just realized you were in AU boz lol.
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Yeah it sucks, god knows what I've been taking, lol. I'll give it a few more days as I was told to wait up to 2 weeks.
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