When to start using Steroids

[calstate23]

Hi guys,

Have anyone created something like a general reference for when to start using Steriods? I realize this is highly individual but I am thinking of something like, at AGE, with BF, with WEIGHT, YEARS OF TRAINING that could be used as a simple general reference. Is this possible or way to individual?

Thanks
~T

Personally if you can not get in LOW single digit bodyfat% naturally and with good muscle bellies and proportions then you don't EVEN deserve it....

And quite frankly, it usually shows the TRUE persons work ethic, which is lazy....Don't even think about it until you hit your natural peak or AT LEAST very close to it..

[swm1972]

Personally if you can not get in LOW single digit bodyfat% naturally and with good muscle bellies and proportions then you don't EVEN deserve it....

And quite frankly, it usually shows the TRUE persons work ethic, which is lazy....Don't even think about it until you hit your natural peak or AT LEAST very close to it..

Not everyone has the same goals. Not everyone has a desire to reach single digit bodyfat. Power lifters don't deserve it for instance? This is a narrow pov based upon your personal goals.

[>Good Luck<]

Not everyone has the same goals. Not everyone has a desire to reach single digit bodyfat. Power lifters don't deserve it for instance? This is a narrow pov based upon your personal goals.

Agreed. Reality there is no right time or formula to decide. Realize your goals, make sure you are committed to the lifestyle of fitness. A couple years training is a good inclination that you are going to keep training. If you just joined the gym, chances are you don't know if you're ready to commit 4 days a week for the rest of your future.

I started to soon, and it was a huge waste. I now feel more ready and others may feel im not yet worthy. But when I think about training and the gym, I don't have a finish line. I plan to train until I'm no longer able to do so, and for me, and only me, it has allowed me to feel ready. I have also done tremendous work on my eating habits and understanding what the body needs to grow, cut, recomp etc.. If you can make serious efforts in these areas, your are closer to your goal of utilizing aas. When you use them will be when you choose to and nobody will make that decision but you.

Good luck

[calstate23]

Not everyone has the same goals. Not everyone has a desire to reach single digit bodyfat. Power lifters don't deserve it for instance? This is a narrow pov based upon your personal goals.

True...I am ONLY thinking bodybuilding wise.....I automatically go towards that when I age those stat numbers.....

[warmouth]

Personally if you can not get in LOW single digit bodyfat% naturally and with good muscle bellies and proportions then you don't EVEN deserve it....

And quite frankly, it usually shows the TRUE persons work ethic, which is lazy....Don't even think about it until you hit your natural peak or AT LEAST very close to it..

Ouch! Thats kinda harsh isnt it? Everyones genetics are different, and most people cant get to single digit BF naturally because they dont have time to train or eatin such a way(They are out working 12-16 hours "being lazy" I guess. Then try to fit in a gym session on top of that, then spend a little time with their families before bed, only to get up 4 hours later to start it all over again. Lazy bastards.)

Lastly, BS on getting to genetic limit before starting. Genetically a person certain person can get to 240, while another 205. But what if the 240just wants to be a muscular 210 and maintain a single digit BF, but due to life, he has to use AAS to help him achieve this physique?

[calstate23]

Ouch! Thats kinda harsh isnt it? Everyones genetics are different, and most people cant get to single digit BF naturally because they dont have time to train or eatin such a way(They are out working 12-16 hours "being lazy" I guess. Then try to fit in a gym session on top of that, then spend a little time with their families before bed, only to get up 4 hours later to start it all over again. Lazy bastards.)

Lastly, BS on getting to genetic limit before starting. Genetically a person certain person can get to 240, while another 205. But what if the 240just wants to be a muscular 210 and maintain a single digit BF, but due to life, he has to use AAS to help him achieve this physique?

Anyone who get to 240 WITHOUT Hormones is most likely fat as sh*t UNLESS they are like 6'3" or something....So in that case, they probably should have been dieting a lot earlier....They can get down as thin as they want but it will take them a lot longer due to bad eating habits....

Most natty's really shouldn't even be that big honestly, depending on their height...No one in a normal height in going to be 240 in low bodyfat% naturally even over 200 lbs real LEAN is rare for average height...So I don't even know how to answer that...The easy part is using hormones, the hard part is getting good physique BEFORE hormones...