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    Quote Originally Posted by 100571
    OK, I'm 25, 6'3", 180 lbs, about 10-11% bf presently.

    In week 6 of 10 weeks on Test Enath @ 500 mg week.

    I have gained about 8 lbs. some of it fat. I suspect that I should be seeing better gains by now so I am looking for advice on what to tweak. I am looking a little thicker, but true muscle definition is still eluding me.

    TRAINING: I have cut cardio to 1 day a week (3-4 mile run @ 8 min mile pace). I train with weights 3 days a week. Monday is chest and shoulders, Wednesday is bi and tri (arms), and Friday is legs and back. I do about 4 exercises per body part for at least 3 sets with heavy weight for low (8-10) reps.

    DIET: Eating whenever I am hungry. Detour bar after every workout. Protein shake at wake and before bed. Lots of snacking on tuna and almost every meal includes a large chicken breast... mmm, I admit I have had problems being consistent with this. I eat out a lot at moderately fancy restaurants... meaning they give hearty portions of fairly healthy food (unlike fast food).

    SLEEP: have not been sleeping as well as I would like because I am in the beginning of what I hope to be a serious relationship (no, she doesn't know about the gear). My mind races a lot at night and I think my quality of sleep is suffering because of it. I am still trying to get 8 hours a night, but I usually wake up 2x a night. On the positive side, since I am already awake I find my way to the kitchen to get my grub on.

    RECREATION: I drink no more than 2 glasses of wine at a time, and it is only 2 times a week at most. I don’t smoke or use any other recreational drugs (anymore, hee hee). Basically, my recreation includes fooling around with my lady friend(s) and watching TV or reading.

    Any thoughts on what I can/should change?

    100571
    What anti-e's are you running? You are in week 6, you should be seeing considerable gains. Sounds like your diet is in order, and your workouts seem ok, although i would up the frequency and intensity. What is your protein intake? Needs to be in the 200-300 range. Sleep is very important, in order to grow you must sleep. Up your intensity, protein, and make sure you get 8-10 hours of sleep a night..If you do all that and no gains, time to look at your gear.

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    Quote Originally Posted by asymmetrical1
    What anti-e's are you running? You are in week 6, you should be seeing considerable gains. Sounds like your diet is in order, and your workouts seem ok, although i would up the frequency and intensity. What is your protein intake? Needs to be in the 200-300 range. Sleep is very important, in order to grow you must sleep. Up your intensity, protein, and make sure you get 8-10 hours of sleep a night..If you do all that and no gains, time to look at your gear.
    I am running L-Dex at .5 mg day... sometimes I skip it b/c I really don't need THAT much arimi in my system. My protein intake is probably around the 175-200 g/day range. I am not too excited about workign out mroe than I already do b/c I was a hard gainer without test and it was easy for me to overtrain. I am 99% sure that the gear is legit. The brand is RT, and the source has done me right in the past when I ordered winny. I'm thinking the sleep is lacking and maybe I need more protein.... although I seem to poop out any more protein than I am eating right now.

    So, I'm not crazy thinking that I shoudl be seeing mroe than 8 lbs by now?


    Keep the opinions coming, bros!

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    Quote Originally Posted by 100571
    I am running L-Dex at .5 mg day... sometimes I skip it b/c I really don't need THAT much arimi in my system. My protein intake is probably around the 175-200 g/day range. I am not too excited about workign out mroe than I already do b/c I was a hard gainer without test and it was easy for me to overtrain. I am 99% sure that the gear is legit. The brand is RT, and the source has done me right in the past when I ordered winny. I'm thinking the sleep is lacking and maybe I need more protein.... although I seem to poop out any more protein than I am eating right now.

    So, I'm not crazy thinking that I shoudl be seeing mroe than 8 lbs by now?

    Keep the opinions coming, bros!
    Are you taking creatine? I am taking 10-15 grams a day with my cycle and its making me burst out all over and putting me into fear of getting stretch marks... I too am on l-dex so primarily the only thing growing is the muscle, very little in the way of fat...

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    Quote Originally Posted by 100571
    I am running L-Dex at .5 mg day... sometimes I skip it b/c I really don't need THAT much arimi in my system. My protein intake is probably around the 175-200 g/day range. I am not too excited about workign out mroe than I already do b/c I was a hard gainer without test and it was easy for me to overtrain. I am 99% sure that the gear is legit. The brand is RT, and the source has done me right in the past when I ordered winny. I'm thinking the sleep is lacking and maybe I need more protein.... although I seem to poop out any more protein than I am eating right now.

    So, I'm not crazy thinking that I shoudl be seeing mroe than 8 lbs by now?


    Keep the opinions coming, bros!
    you just named it right there...
    175-200g/day of protein? you should be aiming for 400g...
    and cut out the cardio... whats the point of that?
    if you're worried about pooping cut out the carbs and throw in protein...
    helped me by also adding 2 spoons of olive oil in with my TWO protein shakes i took during the day

    as a hardgainer its very easy to overtrain on gear too... your workout seems ok... i think its your diet... i'd just slam down more protein for a week and see what happens
    Last edited by Bean666; 10-21-2003 at 03:51 PM.

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