Atomini's all-you-need-to-know about TREN and how to use it effectively thread!

[The Bear 79]

I completely agree with bear and would recommend the same thing. I am doing what I am doing with a specific goal in sight...also, my decision has absolutely nothing to do with bear. The ONLY reason I brought him up is because it seems pretty narrow minded and hypocritical of the board to generally accept/ignore what he does while simultaneously putting others down for wanting to do something similar (regarding cycle length). I can afford blood work/EKG/prostate checks every few weeks...I will have more than enough free time as well (unemployment until the fall term starts woohoo!)....ALL I am seeking here is the knowledge. I planned on getting as much as I could out publicly to benefit everyone and then PMing Bear with any leftover questions I had...but it would seem like you're all more interested in trying to dissuade me from doing something you don't agree with rather than help me do it as safely as possible. Fine logic you have there...

Thanks anyway.

Alright, so many bases to cover here. I can understand how you would view me as a hypocrite, but you should understand that even though I try to detour people from doing what myself am doing, I have the best of intentions at heart & mind, I'm not just being some hypocritical ass hat. I cycle the way I do because I intend to compete against big, bad, beastly mother fvckers that are shooting for my prize my decision had nothing to do with vanity. You mentioned getting heart monitor & blood pressure monitor once a week.........I do it every hour on the hour............yes......this shit is that serious, I get blood work every 60 - 90 days. in order to keep a close eye on cholesterol, Tren jacks that shit through the roof, and I get extensive prostate exams every 120 days. Also, at these doses, left ventricular hypertrophy is a big concern, I have yet to find a way to combat that other than not cycling. There are so many undue risks associated with doses this big, the reward has to be astronomical to balance it, & vanity is nowhere near heavy enough to counter balance the risk brother. I can go on & on with documented studies & dangers but I think you get my point.

Antomini is the fvcking man when it comes to this shit man, he won't steer you wrong.

And nobody here is trying to "hold you down", just trying to identify a legitimate justification or otherwise steer you towards a safer cycle.

[Perseverance1]

Alright, so many bases to cover here. I can understand how you would view me as a hypocrite, but you should understand that even though I try to detour people from doing what myself am doing, I have the best of intentions at heart & mind, I'm not just being some hypocritical ass hat. I cycle the way I do because I intend to compete against big, bad, beastly mother fvckers that are shooting for my prize my decision had nothing to do with vanity. You mentioned getting heart monitor & blood pressure monitor once a week.........I do it every hour on the hour............yes......this shit is that serious, I get blood work every 60 - 90 days. in order to keep a close eye on cholesterol, Tren jacks that shit through the roof, and I get extensive prostate exams every 120 days. Also, at these doses, left ventricular hypertrophy is a big concern, I have yet to find a way to combat that other than not cycling. There are so many undue risks associated with doses this big, the reward has to be astronomical to balance it, & vanity is nowhere near heavy enough to counter balance the risk brother. I can go on & on with documented studies & dangers but I think you get my point.

Antomini is the fvcking man when it comes to this shit man, he won't steer you wrong.

And nobody here is trying to "hold you down", just trying to identify a legitimate justification or otherwise steer you towards a safer cycle.

I appreciate you weighing in on here Bear and I was hoping you would...one thing I'd like to clear up is that I wasn't calling you a hypocrit...I was calling the guys who can simultaneously pat you on the back (or turn a blind eye) while telling me I'm retarded.

I'll get bloodwork every 60 days, I already have a BP monitor I use a few times a day but I can up it to every hour, and I'll start getting my prostate checked every 120 days. I'll probably be PMing you with questions on how you control any/all potential sides and if there's anything else specific I should look for so hopefully you have a little spare time you don't mind using towards educating me a bit. I'm a pretty big numbers junkie so I'll be tracking all possible stats/sides etc. and loving every minute of it.


One thing I don't get though is how everyone here likes to decide what is and isn't "worth the risk" for each individual. I mean, you're about to be the strongest man alive...and everyone here seems to believe that your goal completely validates the means you are using to achieve that goal...I honestly have no intention of becoming the strongest man alive, nor would I ever strive for that. I would never under any circumstance take the risks you are taking to be the strongest man alive.

With that being said...let's say I'm willing to take those same risks so that I can look super cute in my pink Abercrombie T-Shirt my mom bought me at a garage sale (NOT why I'm doing it...just using extremes to prove a point lol). Isn't this a personal decision? Who is anyone else to say what I should or shouldn't risk for goal X. Sure, maybe I could reach my goal of filling out the shirt without gear while you can't...but let's add a timetable to that...maybe I only have 3 months to fill out my cute T-Shirt....I think you see where I'm going with this.

All I'm really trying to say is maybe some members should reevaluate the reasons why they give or withhold information. My main reason for being here is I enjoy breathing, and would like to continue to do so...but on the other side of the coin I've always loved pushing things to the limits and genuinely enjoy taking risks.

Cheers guys and thanks again Bear for the info.