T4 or T3 with HGH

[S&S_ShovelHead]

Cliffs: t4 is beter than t3 with hgh. T3 is better than nothing.

[briansvk]

Cliffs: t4 is beter than t3 with hgh. T3 is better than nothing.

Disagree... T4 is crucial for use as much HGH potential as possible, T3 only in very low dose.. from the above article:

Remember, the thing that catalyzes the conversion process is the deiodinase enzyme.

Supplementing T3 with our GH will abolish Growth Hormone ’s functional hepatic nitrogen clearance, possibly through the effect of reducing the bioavailability of insulin -like growth factor -I (12.)

So the fact is we WANT elevated t3 levels while using HGH, but not from supplementing t3 but from conversion from t4... And HGH itself will take care about this if enough t4 will be present, that is why we want to supplement it

T3 is frequently considered the physiologically active hormone , and consequently the one on which most athletes and bodybuilders focus their energies on. T4, on the other hand, is converted in peripheral tissue into T3 by the enzymes in the deiodinase group, of which there are three types- the three iodothyronine deiodinase either catalyze the initiation (D1, D2) or termination (D3) of thyroid hormone effects. The majority of the body's T3 (about 80%) comes from this conversion


if we use T3 + GH, we get a decrease in the anabolic effect of GH

And it is logical... If HGH itself inhibit t4 production via negative feedback when HGH cause more t4 to be converted to t3, so t3 levels are elevated and the body in order to to maintain homeostasis stops producing t4, so no more t3 can be made via conversion. And this is BAD when using HGH... And if we would supplement even more t3 from outer source, the only thing we would achieve is even higher t3 levels, which means stronger negative loop and less t4 produced...

[slimshady01]

Disagree... T4 is crucial for use as much HGH potential as possible, T3 only in very low dose.. from the above article:

So the fact is we WANT elevated t3 levels while using HGH, but not from supplementing t3 but from conversion from t4... And HGH itself will take care about this if enough t4 will be present, that is why we want to supplement it

And it is logical... If HGH itself inhibit t4 production via negative feedback when HGH cause more t4 to be converted to t3, so t3 levels are elevated and the body in order to to maintain homeostasis stops producing t4, so no more t3 can be made via conversion. And this is BAD when using HGH... And if we would supplement even more t3 from outer source, the only thing we would achieve is even higher t3 levels, which means stronger negative loop and less t4 produced...

Good post ill leave the t3 out!