First Cycle Advice

[ksingh93]

M 20 YO
WEIGHT 176 LBS ,166 LBM , 13.5-14% b.f
4 year of training experience
goal -166 to 180 lbm
cycle- wk 1-6 dbol 30 mg ed ( milk thistle or liv 52 for liver) nolva in hand if needed
wk 1-10 test e 500mg/wk (mon-thursday)
pct after 2 weeks
wk 13-14 40/40/20/20 nolva, 100/50/50/50 clomid

[motoxposse]

I'd suggest dbol 1st 4weeks no nolva u need Ldex at .25 eod to start this is not on hand in case take it u need to control E with test nolva is for pct your pct looks ok

[motoxposse]

One thing I left out your boarder line on age keep reading and researching your still developing

[ksingh93]

i was confused about dbol becoz test kicks in 4 weeks so yeh no need for extra two weeks thanks for your advice mate

[Back In Black]

I'd suggest dbol 1st 4weeks no nolva u need Ldex at .25 eod to start this is not on hand in case take it u need to control E with test nolva is for pct your pct looks ok

REALLY??????

He is 20 years old and you're suggesting that he cycle?!?!?!?!

OP have you read the stickies about cycling at your age? You have enough natural test floating around your body to make amazing gains with a good diet and training regime.

Please visit our nutrition section.

[ksingh93]

i have strict diet for past 3 years from last 5-6 months i was seeing no size-strength gains and i have changed my training programs and my diet couple times to break my plateau so thats y m goona use em nd m preparing for my first competition

[Back In Black]

One thing I left out your boarder line on age keep reading and researching your still developing

Posts crossed mate, you beat me too it, apologies

[Bio-Active]

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...s#.UUSQ01cflWE Please read this sticky OP

[Back In Black]

i have strict diet for past 3 years from last 5-6 months i was seeing no size-strength gains and i have changed my training programs and my diet couple times to break my plateau so thats y m goona use em nd m preparing for my first competition

If you haven't gained size you aren't eating enough and/or training hard enough. No amount of AAS will make up for not eating enough.

Post your diet with macro's in the nutrition forum and we will put you right.

[Back In Black]

How tall are you and what competition?

[ksingh93]

diet depends on bulking and cutting cycle
maintenance calories -2600to 2700 50c-30p-20f
cutting calories - 2000 to 2200 30c-50p-20f
bulking calories - 3000 to 3200 60c-40p-10f or 50c-40p-20f

[ksingh93]

5,11 junior bodybuilding

[Back In Black]

You know your LBM is 152lbs? Lets see some pics and post your bulking diet in the nutrition forum.

When is this comp?

[BR0DIE]

i have strict diet for past 3 years from last 5-6 months i was seeing no size-strength gains and i have changed my training programs and my diet couple times to break my plateau so thats y m goona use em nd m preparing for my first competition

Theres no way you can't gain strength or size, you're 176lbs at 5'11, that's on the small side. Get on a 5x5 program and eat for the next couple of years.

[swm1972]

You lean body mass calculations are off. At that body fat your fat weight is 23-25 lbs. Your math is off. You can't have 10lbs of fat and be 14% body fat unless you weigh 70lbs. You can't bullshit us. If you don't know, don't act like you do.

[ksingh93]

yeh i made some mistakes in calculations sorry for that here are some pics

[ksingh93]

now i need some advice on cycle mate m here for the advice not for anybody opinion on my age and my training and my diet so anyone ?

[ksingh93]

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[MickeyKnox]

now i need some advice on cycle mate m here for the advice not for anybody opinion on my age and my training and my diet so anyone ?

I think a little more reading and research would benefit you, particularly for someone your age. Your natural testosterone levels are sky high right now. I would concentrate on taking advantage of that as you can make tremendous gains in following few short years.

It’s best to know the complications and associated health risks that could affect you should you decide to embark on this journey sooner than later. A few more years to allow your developing endocrine system to finish growing, and then perhaps look at using AAS.

Its also important to understand what it is your putting into your body and the associated roles these compounds play, and the dreaded side effects that are bound to creep up on you - especially if you didn’t do your homework. Otherwise you could be setting yourself up for a host of unwanted side affects including premature closure of your growth plates, Erectile Dysfunction, Gynecomastia (b*tch t*ts), and more..

The Young and Steroids

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...s#.ULk5-mfX_fs

Cycles Gone Wrong for the Young

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...*#.UL2db2fX_fs

[ksingh93]

Readed that but m preparing to compete so m gonna use em any sugesstion regarding cycle nd thanks for the information too

[MickeyKnox]

Readed that but m preparing to compete so m gonna use em any sugesstion regarding cycle nd thanks for the information too

Not at 20 years old, sorry bro. Good luck at your competition.

[sixone]

Hello, Im 40 yrs old, 6'1" 140lbs. I workout four days week. I have defined muscle but of course im thin and want to increase mass. I have been researching anabolics for a while and honestly there is so much mixed info out there. I want to do it right the first time. Experienced help will be greatly appreciated.

[Back In Black]

Hello, Im 40 yrs old, 6'1" 140lbs. I workout four days week. I have defined muscle but of course im thin and want to increase mass. I have been researching anabolics for a while and honestly there is so much mixed info out there. I want to do it right the first time. Experienced help will be greatly appreciated.

Please start your own thread and visit our nutrition forum too for your diet to be fixed.